HILLARY QUOTES : Potty Mouth Clinton

Hat Tip to Earl1911 for finding these!

Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise.” (From the book “Inside The White House” by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 – Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day, 1991)

“You sold out, you mother f**ker! You sold out!” (From the book “Inside” by Joseph Califano, p. 213 – Hillary yelling at Democrat lawyer.)

“It’s been said, and I think it’s accurate, that my husband was obsessed by terrorism in general and al-Qaida in particular.” (Hillary telling a post-9/11 world what a ‘great’ commander in chief her husband was; Dateline, NBC 4/16/2004.)

“I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have learned [about Islam] has come from our daughter.” (TruthInMedia.org 8/8/1999 – Hillary at a White House function, proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the “religion of peace”)

F**k off! It’s enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.” (From the book “American Evita” by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 – Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with “Good morning.”

“You f**king idiot.” (From the book “Crossfire” p. 84 – Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.)

“If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!” (From the book “The First Partner” p. 259 – Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

“Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!”(From the book “Hillary’s Scheme” p. 89 – Hillary’s various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

“Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don’t come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I s ay, Okay!!!?” (From the book “Unlimited Access”, by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 – Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)

“Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” (Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)

“Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!”(From the book “The Survivor,” by John Harris, p. 382 – Hillary in her 2000 Senate campaign)

“Where’s the miserable c*ck sucker?” (From the book “The Truth About Hillary” by Edward Klein, p. 5 – Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

“No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days – we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote.” (Was posted on Hillary Clinton’s senate.gov web site on 1/28/05)

“Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!” (From the book “Dereliction of Duty” p. 71-72 – Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)

A right-wing network was after his presidency…including perverting the Constitution.” (To Barbara Walters about the Republicans who impeached her husband; 20/20, ABC 6/8/2003.)

“What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!” (From the book “The Survivor” by John Harris, p. 99 – Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the White House)

“I mean, you’ve got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum.” (C-Span, 1/19/1997 – Hillary complains about the mainstream media, which are all conservatives in her opinion)

“Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can’t f**k her here!!” (From the book “Inside The White House” by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 – Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally)

“You know, I’m going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I’m going to start thinking of her as a human being” (From the book “The Case Against Hillary Clinton” by Peggy Noonan, p. 55)

“You show people what you’re willing to fight for when you fight your friends.” (From the book “The Agenda” by Bob Woodward, ch. 14)

“We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West.” (From the book “I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan” by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 119 – During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas)

“The only way to make a difference is to acquire power” (From the book “I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan” by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 68 – Hillary to a friend before starting law school.)

“We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices…. Government has to make those choices for people” (From the book “I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan” by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 20 – Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hastert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan)

“I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe” (From the book “I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan” by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 – Hillary in 1996)

Hat Tip Joe http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/hillary-clinton-get-fcked.html

218 Responses to “HILLARY QUOTES : Potty Mouth Clinton”

  1. Hillary’s f**king bad language - Hillary Quotes from Gateway Pundit!!! (bad language warning) « Golos - The Voice Says:

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  2. yunjin Says:

    Hillary-ous. :D

  3. armilnov Says:

    This goes to expose Hillary’s character, or lack thereof.

  4. Sheldon Says:

    Read more about the naked truth on Hillary Clinton, in my new book, “Hillary Clinton Nude:Naked Ambition, Hillary Clinton And America’s Demise.”

  5. patricksperry Says:

    Will do that Sheldon! :)

  6. Adrienne vonGrey Says:

    I would like to know if Hillary really said all the f****g quotes attributed to her……………
    I would like to think that she is more of a lady.

  7. patricksperry Says:

    Read Sheldons book, and follow up on the link that was supplied.

  8. hah Says:

    I call her Hitlery.

  9. cuda Says:

    I believe Hilary is as crude and rude as is told by those that witnessed it.Just an Elite skank.What do you get when you put a paint job on a turd? A painted turd!

  10. Oren Swearingen Says:

    Can’t you just see that woman as commander in chief ?? There will be mass resignations !

  11. Exploited Says:

    Wow what a bitch.
    She’s treating the people who protect her life like shit, realllllll smart lady.
    Obviously elite scum, as she lacks common sense.

  12. Dave Iles Says:

    If our ruling global elite have their way we the sheeple, will have only two choices in 2008 and each one a nasty, corrupt, lying bitch… Shillary or Julie-Annie.

    Thank God for Ron Paul or our nation will be destroyed by these demented whores!

    Vote for Ron Paul and help save the Constitution and our liberty from this insane, criminal government!

  13. draconius Says:

    yet you can be sure the idiot american voters will still vote this piece of human garbage into the white house. you can count on it.

  14. jamie Says:

    she talks just like i do!

  15. Leo Hirschocker Says:

    She’s trying to be a man – I’m sure all the Presidents use fucking profanities.

  16. Jimmy Says:

    Let’s ask people like Vince Foster about whether Hillary should have air to breathe…

  17. Taylor Moore Says:

    Hillary is quite the vicious political animal, isn’t she? For the life of me, I don’t see how any reasonably sane person would opt for someone like this as our next president and commander-in-chief.

  18. jesus christ Says:

    On the governent of the United States of America and Hillary Clinton: no comment.

    It’s 2007 and we are all going to heaven, so pack your bags and bring a tooth brush.

  19. jesus christ Says:

    government*

  20. thinkingman Says:

    Was it not Hillary and Janet Reno in 67 or 68 That was busy burning the Flag and Shouting Down with the Constitution and Down with the System? So if that Was them Who was saying that Back then In I think It was In Chicago that Happend I was Really young back Then, What do they Suggest Repalce It?

  21. George Warmonger Says:

    REVOLUTION is the SOLUTION!!!

  22. Karl Mohr Says:

    I would very much like to know if the Hillary four-letter quotes are all accurate and real, but do not have the time to check them all out. Has anyone done so? Please lead me to such confirmation if you know of same. Thanks!

  23. Cinnabar Says:

    I’m not liberal or conservative: This is why! These politicians are mean: That’s how they get to the top. The last thing we need is another term of the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton dynasty….I’m giving my vote to Ron Paul! He’s the only candidate with a doctorate, and he’s got great ideas.

    As for Guiliani, just read his Wikipedia article. It speaks for itself.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani

  24. Cinnabar Says:

    What I was really pointing to is his personal life. You can click on the heading in the table of contents

  25. sierrahpbt Says:

    I know for a fact that hillary was caught in a lesbian orgy in the whitehouse.. my friend a secret service agant was on rounds checking the whitehouse when he opened a door and found them going at it! ..second.. a colorado congressman and his wife was invited to the whitehouse at Christmas time.. there were lesbian porno ornaments on the tree.. but these people are just so great! WAKE UP AMERICA… RON PAUL IN 08!

  26. Indian in the machine Says:

    Hilary is a clone……..

    Check out my website and see what’s been appearing in the canadian sky…..you won’t be disappointed….Dieter

  27. Ron_Paul_Patriot Says:

    Interesting how she calls people “shitkickers” in such an arrogant and condescending way, when in truth she reveals the moral character of a common prostitute in so many ways.

  28. Robert Gaul Says:

    Well, she won’t have any problems at the “swearing in” ceremony using that type of fowl language!

  29. Mike Adkison Says:

    What a poor excuse for a woman! A despicable, disgusting, oppourtunistic, yes man of a woman, bitch of a cunt.

  30. Paul Roberts Says:

    Maybe this is why Hillary’s nickname in Arkansas was the “DRAGON LADY”.

  31. Mark Linham Says:

    When you experience the shit kickers kicking your own shit, will you still think ill of Hillary Clinton, then?
    Cops of all kinds are out of control – not only because of bad laws, but because of their individual willingness, or eagerness, to have the “job” of enforcing unjust legislative trash. Our governments and the corporations for which they stand own you dupes in our supposed “land of the free”.
    But, no.. Please disregard this, and just keep waving your little flags!

    I know it’s also a waste of my time to tell you that at least the males among you actually would like to have a woman like have Hillary. You hypocrites need a woman who will let you play around on them and yet still forgive you – or at least keep you – after finding you out about it.. and you’re just furious that you don’t have one. But, President Clinton does! Isn’t that just OUTRAGEOUS?! Seethe in your envy!

    I wish she was as OPENLY caustic as this blog alleges, about everything we should be angry about, not just to cops, though that’s needed as well. Good for her, if the quotes are true!

    If Hillary is the nominee, she gets my vote and full support, motherfuckers!

  32. Peter Says:

    And the sad thing is that she probably will be the next president. Poor America. But this woman will burn in hell one day! amen

  33. De Vulcan Says:

    That is what can be expexted from a REPTILE- Lackey, they think they have won allready, so there is no end to their arrogance. But the 1.st step to take them down is to actually discover that they are there and doing what they do. Everyone who has not yet been brainwashed into his/her reptile-brain:scream REPTILES of your full lungs everywhere you see them.and vote for Ron Paul ort Ralph Nader. Good Luck America!

  34. David Mende Says:

    Does she torture people ala whorehay bush? She is in the big leagues and playing with men who eat nails for breakfast. Look at the money those men spent trying to ruin Bill. Lesbian? Who cares. (no fags though). Just get US the hell out of the Middle East and you can talk anyhow you want. If Hillary promises to fire Bernake and his evil henchmen, she has my vote. Until then it’s RP. Thanks

  35. otama Says:

    And WHY are we to believe these quotes? Have you researched to see if they are true or disinformation ala ‘swift boating’. Americans believe everything in print. Congratulations… you’re playing into their hands just like dumbed-down, drugged, good Americans should. And it’s interesting that most of the posters here are males. Get over yourselves men.

  36. Ngaio Beck Says:

    I am a conservative Republican.Iam nauseated at the thought of a Hillary Presidency.I cannot think of anything that could ever cause me to vote for her.Anything that is except Rudy Giuliani.

  37. Rabbit Says:

    @Mark Linham

    You are a complete moron. It is hard to imagine a worse president than Bush, but with Hillary Clinton, you have it. This is a nasty, vicious and gross human being (sic). An evil bloodsucking slug. She is a foul mouthed, poison tongued, lying whore.

    I almost wish that she does become president so that fuckwits like you can get their just deserts.

    Ron Paul for President, assuming you even get an election in 2008, which is far from a certainty. Otherwise I sincerely hope that your godforsaken, ignorant hypocritical empire collapses as soon as possible, for the sake of the rest of the world, and all those people who actually still; deserve to breathe our air.

    I would rather fight a war against you mass murdering lying greedy and ignorant flag humping cretins; than fight by your side.

    An Australian, who obviously knows a lot more about your own vile country, its actions and its incredibly poor leaders than some of you moronic Amurikans!

  38. CJ Says:

    Want more of an inside view to Hitlary’s despotic personality? Read, “The Tranceformation of America” by Cathy O’Brien and Mark Philips. That will set the record straight. You’ll also get a dose of GHW Bush and DICK.

  39. Rabbit Says:

    To the guy above me, yes I would have to agree that a Rudy Giuliani presidency might even top a Hitlery Clinton one in the atrocious stakes, but not even that should be an excuse to vote for this wicked bitch of the west.

    If the only choice you end up with in 2008, assuming you even get an election which is probably even bets at best; is Hitlery Clit-on and Rude Julie-Annie, then I sincerely suggest the only way open to you is open rebellion.

    I know many Americans, real ones that is, will probably be ready for they can see clearly that this is the end game, but the majority of you are probably too stupid, too fat and too lazy to do shit to save yourselves. You are a disgrace. As a nation, as an example of democracy, as an ally, you are a stinking example of putrescence in action.

    Stand up and take back your country. Or else get used to living on your knees and open your cracks and gobs wide for the Zionist lobby to make casual use of each and every one of you whenever the urge comes over them. God how I have come to loathe you Amurikans.

  40. Dave Ault Says:

    There is a subtle meaning to the name Hillary. ” Helping Incumbent Liberal Lawyers Advance Repression Yearly” She is married to Bill and their last name is significant also. “Conniving Liberal Incumbent Needlessly Threatens Our Nation”

  41. Rabbit Says:

    And as for all those brain dead cretins who are questioning if the quotes are accurate.

    Grow a brain, or at least try to imitate people with brains.

    If you have any refutation of the quotes, let us here it. Otherwise you fucking bozos, IT BEHOOVES YOU TO DISPROVE THEM.

    Presumably the people who wrote about it, have researched them. That is what an author does you fuckwits! Merely questioning them without making any effort of your own, simply puts on display the sort of near zombified state of your own minds.

    You are self evidently on the internet. Try some research if you have any doubts or else your empty words stand as testament to your own stupidity and do nothing to detract from the article or its content.

  42. Aaron Says:

    What a vile, disgusting woman. I sure as hell hope you people spread the word and never let this disgrace recieve the nomination.

  43. michele Says:

    Our Country is in bad shape, I want to know about “Vince Foster “, Hillary Knows this Untold Story. ……M.R.M

  44. Scott B Says:

    Anything, ANYTHING, is better than what is currently in office. Hillary could curse in fifteen different languages, I just want the current evil removed…. It is soooo ironic that the only way Hillary had a chance to gain office is the complete failure of the current admin. The country is on the verge of catastrophe… When men curse, it is no big deal, but women are expected not to. That is soooo stupid! For all the Hillary haters, you losers had a chance to make a difference and messed EVERYTHING up, so just shut up and suck it up.

  45. NFL Wrestling Says:

    Kind of sounds like our current ‘resident’ of the White House.

    No wonder in her ‘reverse’ speech she clearly says…”I’ll fit in nicely.”

  46. Rick Says:

    Can’t help but think we are all being a bit judgemental here. Keep in mind that Hillary and Rudy, as are George and Bill, the chosen of the Chosen. We must all learn to be more trusting that our Zionist Rulers are directing our great country to its proper place in the world. We all waste so much energy when we should all just…let go and let ZOG. Come on now, isn’t there something good on T.V. ?

  47. Indian in the machine Says:

    Apparently Hillary is a clone very likely programmed at camp david…..yes it could be true……..if you check out my website I’ve posted many images of what’s been appearing in the canadian sky……..it looks like we have company here to help us transmute the darkness.

    Stay strong folks

  48. Makan Says:

    Life’s a bitch. So in 2008 don’t vote for one.

    Hillary “Rottweiler” Klinton. Heil to the Bitch!

    What about the fowl mouth of Rudy Jewliani?

  49. PorkMeister Says:

    Are these quotes for real? If there was just one book whore making these claims, there would be a lot more room for suspicion. That there are a variety of sources from a wide range of times, settings contexts indicates that yes, this individual talks a lot of shit. Not that talking shit is a crime, that’s correct, but it does reflect a lack of temperance and reveals a lot about her character.

    To actually think that she’s anything but a power whore that will do or say anything to get elected is fairly foolish. She’s all about her own ambitions, and daily refuses to take any stand to define herself as a person of conscience.

    We need a LEADER, not another smiling front person for nefarious interests.

    I’m switching camps to GOP for the first time in my entire life, voting Ron Paul. Fuck it, it’s probably too late anyway to save America, but I’d like to think that I’d be on the front lines and fighting to the death if we were to be invaded, instead of watching TV or hiding under the bed.

  50. patricksperry Says:

    Hilliary or the Mayor? I see little good in once again having to choose the lessor of two evils myself.

  51. Walter Skinner Says:

    Scott B’s post on 11/20/07, shows what true idiocy is. Obviously Mr. B. is one of those who is completely at ease with anything regardless of the effect it has on his or anyone else’s liberty. W may not be as eloquent as Hitlery or as oily as Slick Willy, but he’s a damn sight better than either of those two Commie-loving traitors.

    It’s clear to me that Mr. B is biased against W. Why do you think our country is in the shape it’s in right now? All one has to do is go back to the Legislative branches and examine the records of the leaders of the Democrap party such as Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Nancy Pelosi, Charlie Rangel, Harry Reid…and pretty much the rest of that treasonous camp. I don’t understand why so many folks walk into their respective voting precincts with either Union election recommendations or just pick a straight Democrap ticket when the evidence is crystal clear that the Democraps have done nothing except sell this country right down the river. The only decent Democrap in office right now is Joe Lieberman.

    One of the most exasperating things is that people just keep voting these idiots in..time and time again and can’t see the problem for what it is. Unions have done nothing for their members in the area of election suggestions. They, too, are populated with a bunch of pinheaded leaders whose only real concerns are what helps the Union…and hurts its members. National Health Care? Who do you think is going to pay for that? Where does the money come from?

    Sorry, Scott, but you’re way, way off base here. Hillary Clinton is totally wrong for this country. Now or any other time. She’s the worst thing that could happen for the time being.

  52. patricksperry Says:

    Now why am I thinking that Walter is holding back? Notice please folks, that there was not one single curse word in his post.

  53. Gertjan Zwiggelaar Says:

    The Talmud teaches that anyone who is not a Judaist is an animal in human skin. Hillary Clinton is a Judaist and believes in the Talmud. Hence, we, who are not believers in that faith, are to be treated as animals. Her despicable behaviour is much the same as Israel’s behaviour towards the Palestinians and anyone else who does not agree with them. We have to wake up and re read what Jesus said about those people in Matthew 23. He called them, ‘the children of Satan’. Since He is my leader, I tend to follow His advice. I’m certain He knew what He was talking about.

    For those of you not familiar with the Talmud, the law which Jesus came to set the Judaists free from, go to http://www.comeandhear.com, and you will have a pretty clear picture of what Hillary believes.
    I do not wonder at her behaviour. She is just your typical Zionist pig. (Oops, I think I just insulted pigs. Sorry about that).e

  54. genekalmes Says:

    jamie Says:
    November 19, 2007 at 7:56 pm

    she talks just like i do!

    Jamie, you have state troopers protecting you? :)

  55. cliff Says:

    H. Clinton would be complaining about zionist jews as well if she was not so busy licking their arse-holes.

  56. pjb Says:

    Hilary Whore.

  57. Jo Says:

    Yes, do read Cathy O’Brien and Mark Phillips’ book “Tranceformation of America”. And read it s-l-o-w-l-y because your stomach will need a break every chapter. These politicians are ALL the same – no exceptions. Hitlery has already been groomed and selected to be the next president, even though Ron Paul would be the best suited. The voters have no choice in the matter. Look how W got into the White House.

    Psychopaths, all of them, and I don’t use that word lightly. Predators. Reptiles. Not human in any sense of the word. To use Hiltery’s own words “You are f**ked!”

  58. james2macd Says:

    If possible see the movie The Clinton Cronicles and as you watch it count the bodies stacking up in Arkansas. Bad language is the least of the problens with this sick murdering bitch!

  59. Madman McGill Says:

    These pinhead far leftist democrats need to shown that the people are on to them. Their agenda is to make this country a socialist marxist state. The Clintons are in on it as well as Pelosi, Read and the rest. Moveon.org is their enabler. The Chinese and the Russians have been conspiring to break this country apart and bring us down. And now we have Iran and Venuseula trying to destroy our economy. And they succeeding. Beware you simple minded fools. Voting in the left wing of the Democrats is dangerous and will bring an end to our society as we know it.

  60. Darran Says:

    The elections are rigged, so the next president will be whoever has been programmed into the Diebholt voting machines. And considering Hillary has the approval of the elite, indeed has been groomed by them, everything points to it being her. But if it isn’t it will not really matter anyway – they will have their New World Order…

  61. Clint Fuller Says:

    Another reason to vote for Ron Paul

  62. Rob OLoughlin Says:

    “I would like to think that she is more of a lady.”

    She’s a beast.

  63. uncle brownie Says:

    She is so typical of those mother f*ckers that set the laws for everyone else. Hitelry is a haters of all blacks and mexicans and jews. She is a foul mouthed cheap trick. VOTE RON PAUL, VOTE RON PAUL! She is not elite that pig hiterly, she is merely a foul mouthed piece of shit that needs to be defeated before the commie clintons can damage this country anymore. VOTE RON PAUL,VOTE RON PAUL!

  64. Jesse Stonebridge Says:

    Ron Paul is the only candidate running who can beat the Beast.

    Don’t get caught up in all the deception and disinformation.

    Make sure the electronic voting machines are trashed.

    Make sure everyone votes and knows about Ron Paul.

    Make sure you vote for Ron Paul.

    Wake up and do some research. You will discover Ron Paul is exactly what this nation needs.

  65. Wake up Call Says:

    On Minnesota Public Radio the other week they had a journalist who was interested in following up on ordinary people who spoke to Hillary during her campaigning stops in various towns and cities. One was somewhere in the midwest I believe. Here, Clinton and her entourage entered a mom and pop restaurant for lunch and the waitress was interviewed later by the journalist as to what she thought about Hillary. Did meeting her in person sway her to vote for Hillary? Well, this waitress told Hillary she was a single mom with two little ones and trying to hold down two jobs and still finding it tough to get ahead of her bills etc. Hillary made no comment on what she said only demanded what she wanted to eat and asked her to make it quick. Did she leave a tip? Absolutely not. The waitress seemed to have mixed feelings about this. On one hand she expected the first lady to tip but then she let her off the hook by saying how busy she must be.
    Anyway, we can all see what a hippocrite this candidate is. As a woman I can say I detest her. I too have read excerpts from Cathy O’Briens book, ‘The Trance-Formation of America’. The disgusting inhumane goings-on that these people practice and the insane agenda they are a part of I want nothing to do with. I do not believe I have ever felt so called to vote for the one named Ron Paul ever in my life as I do now. It is not just reactionary on my part, but clearly to re-claim our nation from a rogue bunch who are clearly out of control with themselves!

  66. Loch Phillips Says:

    That’s the kind of president I want in office. One that can tell some one to F**k 0ff and/or get the F**k moving. She’s my kind of guy.

  67. Lochman Says:

    She’s goinig to be my kind of President; one that can tell some one to F*** off when needed and get F***ing moving…

  68. ANTHONY PERONE Says:

    HILLARY IS A FRUSTRATED AGEING FEMALE WITH A CHEATIN’ HUSBAND
    SHE ONLY KEEPS MARRIED TO BECAUSE HE CAN HELP HER TO BE PRESIDENT. HER IDEALS AND POLITICAL INSIGHTS DIED AT WELLSLEY.

  69. HISTORY Says:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6470450895164255089&q=clinton%20chronicles&total=105&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

    clintons are criminals! Cocaine dealers, drug money laundering, murdering CRIMINALS.
    Hitlery SHREDDED EVIDENCE. HAD HER PARTNER WACKED. nothing – not even murdering CHILDREN is beyond them. they raked in 100 MILLION A MONTH – and laundered it in many various ways. AMERICAN POLITICIANS AND GOVERNMENT DO NOT REPRESENT WE THE PEOPLE. THEY REPRESENT CORRUPTION and LIARS.

  70. Jet Says:

    Most of these Hillary quotes are old news. Most are uncorroborated quotes used to spice up Hillary-bashing books. YAWN!!!!!!!!

  71. Mark Says:

    As for the Hillary stories…if it’s on the Internet, it must be true.

    I was going to change parties to vote for Ron Paul, but I got a yellow fund-raising letter from him ranting about the North American Union. Some Fear-Mongering Conspiracy. Maybe if I live to 72, I’ll be a Conspiracy Theorist too, but for President?

  72. NY Patriot Says:

    Hillbillary will NOT be elected. She will be NOMINATED along with Osamabummer thereby allowing the voters to efficiently hand over the presidency over to the Neocons again. Much like the scripted Monica L. “affair” in the white house. This little episode did more to swing the vote towards the republicans than the Florida vote scam. There will be elections in 2008.

    Ron Paul is the man for the times. But IMHO I don’t see how he’ll do it. I hope RP wins for all of us’ sakes.

  73. jimdazey Says:

    are you trying to tell me that not one of you idiots have ever said something that someone else thought was innappropiate?
    freedom of speach is a good thing, it keeps you conservative morons in check.
    i will not be voting for hillary in the primaries, but you “people” make me want to roll in my own puke.
    eat a bag of shit, you bastards.
    jimdazey

  74. Auntie Nuwhirl Doorder Says:

    Ron Paul seems to be the only answer. Unfortunately, if he wins, they will somehow get to him as they get to all the presidents….through bribery, threats, blackmail or god forbid, assassination. It’s far worse than most people know. Most negative events in modern history, are not natural….social and political engineering. It will get worse before it gets better. To what extent is unknown. God bless America….peace forever!!!!!

  75. Alexandra Says:

    Hillary’s mama apparently forgot to tell her that cussing isn’t ladylike.

    Forget Ron Paul as well. Ever hear of “too good to be true”? Ain’t no way you’re going to have someone in office who actually cares about America.

  76. David Martin Says:

    The most revealing Hillary quote I’ve seen is not by her but about her, by her husband, as related by Bill’s mistress, Gennifer Flowers, in her book, “Passion and Betrayal”:

    [W]hen I heard some rumors floating around Little Rock, I had to speak up. He was with me at home one evening, and I cautiously told him, “There’s something you need to know. I’ve been hearing tales around town that Hillary is having a thing with another woman.” I watched his face to see his reaction, and couldn’t believe it when he burst out laughing. I was stunned! I asked him what was so funny. “Honey,” he said, “she’s probably eaten more pussy than I have.”

    There’s more on the subject at http://www.dcdave.com.

  77. Auntie Nuwhirl Doorder Says:

    Hahahaha!!!! That Gennifer Flowers quote was the best one yet!!!

  78. Phil Klein Says:

    If anyone ever dared to admonish Hillary that her language was uncouth, she probably screamed: “Uncouth! WHAT’S THIS ‘UNCOUTH’ SHIT?!

  79. Jean Lafitte Says:

    one of my former bosses, who used to tell me of his cocaine parties at William Shattner’s home (describing the furniture, etc.) also told me about his buddy who was on staff at the Clinton White House – one day, he opened a door to a conference room to find Hillary and another woman. They seem to have misplaced their clothes and were struggling all over each other – apparently in an effort to find them? By now, the other woman has probably met a gruesome and untimely death.

  80. Rabbit Says:

    HERE BE MORONS.

    Scott B
    Jet
    Mark

    Mark you are without doubt one of the dumbest shit heads I have seen on this thread, and there are a few of you.

    The North American Union, you fucking ignorant, misinformed cretin, IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY. IT is a living,m breathing, happening fact! I am astounded, again and again at the patent stupidity of you fucking brain dead Yanks. Some of you are just a complete waste of carbon and Oxygen. Please, for the love of god, will you cretins JUST DIE already.

    Scott you bloody idiot so you are judging a candidate negatively based on the enthusiasm of some of his supporters? There is nothing I could say which would be an insult to one such as yourself.

    Jet laddy, the quotes are old news, they are corroborated by the actual WITNESSES and nobody, least of all you small band of morons in sheep’s garb have managed to dispute them in any way, despite an obvious wish to do so. I’d say you can’t and that is why you have not. Oh yes you said it was false……..that should really change the facts then.

    The most useful thing you dopes could do is donate your bodies to science and go out and kill yourselves. Just leave you brains intact, that is the thing science will have most interest in I am sure. You are definitely the best evidence yet that not only is evolution from apes a likely possibility but also DEVOLUTION to apes is a likely prospect for some.

    jimdazey ….Matey, you are rolling in your puke actually. You are just to stupid to notice.

    Alexandra, I am sad to admit I agree with you. My feeling is that Ron Paul is far too good for the USA. I cannot imagine why God would give your dreadful nation a break at this point. I think you have a whole lot of Karam to catch up on first and Ron Paul is being shown to you just as you go down the toilet, so that you may know what you might have had, if instead of boasting, lying and deluding yourselves, you’d actually been a great democracy and champion of freedom. As it is, the USA is due for a whole lot of hurt, and sadly even those who would have, could have made a difference are going to have to suffer along with the rest of you.

    I imagine American Brides will be a dime a dozen on the dating sites in a few years. There are already increasingly many turning up, those who can see what is coming and are trying to get out at any cost. Personally I prefer the Russians, at least they have a decent education!

  81. Bobby Says:

    Yeah, I know some Americans believe everything in print. What amazes me is Democrats believe everything good about Hillary and Bill and nothing bad. the truth is, the Clintons have never seen or been offered a corporate bribe that they didn’t accept. Bill Clinton signed in literally ALL the “free trade” agreements so damaging to so many countries. This is all on the record. He took state aid away from more poor black people than any Republican, crooked as they are, politician ever did. Al Gore and Clinton did nothing, NOTHING, for the environment. The fact is she is nothing but the usuall establishment politician with all the usuall dirty little secrets they all have in common. What would be wrong giving Dr. Ron Paul a chance? Could he possibly scr-w up this nation more than it has been by the establishment approved politicians? I doubt it.

  82. Mark Linham Says:

    To Rabbit and others whom it may (or not) concern:

    Rabbit, several pages back (5:47am) asserts:

    “It is hard to imagine a worse president than Bush, but with Hillary Clinton, you have it. This is a nasty, vicious and gross human being (sic). An evil bloodsucking slug. She is a foul mouthed, poison tongued, lying whore.”

    How so? Almost every professional politician is a lying whore! What doesn’t make sense at all to me is the disproportionate share of invective hurled at the Clintons, particularly Hillary.

    Later you said, in effect, that the burden is on the doubters, of the alleged Hillary quotes that were the starting focus of this thread, to disprove their authenticity. This is not reasonable in light of two things: 1) The doubters are not making the postive assertion, and 2) the political right-wing has shown a willingness to win at any cost, including that of the truth itself. Examples of 2 include the wrongful purging of voter rolls (especially in Florida in 2000), rigged voting machines (both Florida, 00, and Ohio, 04, and elsewhere) , lying (about the reasons) to get us into a war that was more about our need for energy, and Bush’s personal vendetta, than about defeating Islamist terrorism), outing intelligence operatives (an unbelievably treasonous action that killed how many CIA agents?), lying about the war’s body count, reneging on service members’ enlistment compensation agreements and denying veterans’ benefits, and of course, the fundamental one: promoting superstition (religion) over reason and science, and if all that isn’t enough, keep in mind that this list is FAR from exhaustive.
    AND!! Former White House Press Secretary, Scotty MacClellan came out with it today about the lies authorised by Bush himself in the Valerie Plame affair. Not that we all didn’t know that already, of course!

    So please, Rabbit, we have an overwhelming weight of reasons to doubt claims made by those probably peddling the rightist agenda.

    Another poster here (Scott B, 7:39am) said, in effect, that Hillary would be an improvement over the present regime. That’s true Scott.. Just about anyone would be.. except another Republican!

    Incidentally, for you Ron Paul supporters: I like Ron Paul too for his anti-tax and anti-Federal Reserve bank positions. But I cannot (and will not) support any politician who would deprive any person of bodily autonomy.

    My favorite Democrat is Dennis Kucinich, but I object to his recent attempt to violate the Second Amendment by criminalizing individual handgun ownership.

    This is not a good world.. I have no one that I can vote for with complete confidence and enthusiasm.
    But it ought to be obvious that the US Republican Party, with its promotion of, or nod to, the Christian theocratic agenda is, if anything, MORE dangerous to reason, justice and to individual freedom than the, largely weak-kneed, Democrats are.

  83. Mark Linham Says:

    To Rabbit and others whom it may (or not) concern:

    Rabbit, several pages back (5:47am) asserts:

    “It is hard to imagine a worse president than Bush, but with Hillary Clinton, you have it. This is a nasty, vicious and gross human being (sic). An evil bloodsucking slug. She is a foul mouthed, poison tongued, lying whore.”

    How so? Almost every professional politician is a lying whore! What doesn’t make sense at all to me is the disproportionate share of invective hurled at the Clintons, particularly Hillary.

    Later you said, in effect, that the burden is on the doubters, of the alleged Hillary quotes that were the starting focus of this thread, to disprove their authenticity. This is not reasonable in light of two things: 1) The doubters are not making the positive assertion, and 2) the political right-wing has shown a willingness to win at any cost, including that of the truth itself. Examples of 2 include the wrongful purging of voter rolls (especially in Florida in 2000), rigged voting machines (both Florida, 00, and Ohio, 04, and elsewhere) , lying (about the reasons) to get us into a war that was more about our need for energy, and Bush’s personal vendetta, than about defeating Islamist terrorism), outing intelligence operatives (an unbelievably treasonous action that killed how many CIA agents?), lying about the war’s body count, reneging on service members’ enlistment compensation agreements and denying veterans’ benefits, and of course, the fundamental one: promoting superstition (religion) over reason and science, and if all that isn’t enough, keep in mind that this list is FAR from exhaustive.
    AND!! Former White House Press Secretary, Scotty MacClellan came out with it today about the lies authorized by Bush himself in the Valerie Plame affair. Not that we all didn’t know that already, of course!

    So please, Rabbit, we have an overwhelming weight of reasons to doubt claims made by those probably peddling the rightist agenda.

    Another poster here (Scott B, 7:39am) said, in effect, that Hillary would be an improvement over the present regime. That’s true Scott.. Just about anyone would be.. except another Republican!

    Incidentally, for you Ron Paul supporters: I like Ron Paul too for his anti-tax and anti-Federal Reserve bank positions. But I cannot (and will not) support any politician who would deprive any person of bodily autonomy.

    My favorite Democrat is Dennis Kucinich, but I object to his recent attempt to violate the Second Amendment by criminalizing individual handgun ownership.

    This is not a good world.. I have no one that I can vote for with complete confidence and enthusiasm.
    But it ought to be obvious that the US Republican Party, with its promotion of, or nod to, the Christian theocratic agenda is, if anything, MORE dangerous to reason, justice and to individual freedom than the, largely weak-kneed, compromised Democrats are.

  84. Joel O'Connell Says:

    So who in here has not said…fuck ….It’s a great word to use when you
    are angry. What man in here does not like a blow job. Get off the Clinton’s case…It’s getting old and those who continue to blog this, are hypocrites.
    P.S. I am a woman…tut tut…not a lady…booooo hoooooo.

  85. Rabbit Says:

    Joel O’Connell

    A simple reading of the rest of the comments and a bit of research will show you that the profanity is NOT the issue nor is it the most serious problem with the beast whore Hillary Clinton. You are either braindead, or a shill.

    Which is it you dumb fucking bitch? NOT all the quotes above related to profanity and in no instance was the profanity the real issue, but the sort of mind and person which would utter such words in the circumstances referred to.

    What part of “She is a vile, foul disgusting satanic murdering whore from hell, who would take Bush’s new collection of fascist laws and make serious use of them against all and sundry who stood in the way of her masters, DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

    You are too stupid to even register. A bullet to the head would still leave you with the same amount of brainpower you appear to possess.

  86. Mark Linham Says:

    Ooooh! My we are a bit testy today, are we?

  87. Rabbit Says:

    Mark, you are self evidently on the net. Do some research you fucking shit for brains toady.

    Look up Vince Foster. CRETIN!

    Look at the history of this CIA Whore bitch.

    Tell me turdmuncher, what is your point that all politicians are arsewipes so it doesn’t matter that the Clinton bitch is one of the lowest forms of life itself?

    How about considering a candidate whop has morals, honor, the interests of the USA at heart and an unbroken history of doing the right thing, and standing up for truth and the constitution?

    What are you trying to say you bozoid? That the only choices you cretins should be making are between the worst possible humans on the planet, even if there is a genuine and great alternative?

    You are truly too stupid to insult as I said. Rational thought is something which is evidently beyond you or your sheep like form of devolved humanity. You cannot defend a lying, murdering, sellout cunt, without being a lying, complicit shit for brains arsehole yourself.

    Hillary Clinton is a Beast. She is in league with other greater beasts and as I have already said, you actually deserve her. If it were not for the fact she will cost the rest of the world eventually also, I’d be all for her election. I could think of no better Karma for the most atrocious and roundly hated nation on earth.

    Under Cheney and his pet Chimp the USA has sunk to the lowest ebb in every respect in just eight years. Under the Clinton bitch you will actually come to see these as the good old days. I sincerely pray you end up in one of your torture camps one day. You have even less self respect that you have brains evidently.

    Your comment about Ron Paul’s position on Abortion is typical of the most idiotic and useless of yanks in their deluded state. Pay attention you foul little man.

    The only viable candidate who would stop the US murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent people, men women and children, for profits; every year; IS RON PAUL! The rest, led by the Clinton Bicth are aching to start on a new sovereign nation in fact.

    Yet you want to whine about a few dead Amercian Fetuses? Frankly man you are a strong argument for Abortion and considering your mental development it is probably not even too late for you to be rectified in that manner. Technically you are not quite human yet it seems.

    HOWEVER, and this is the crux of the issue.

    RON PAUL IS NOT RUNNING FOR DOG CATCHER, OR MAYOR. HE IS A CONSTITUTIONIST AND HIS POSITION ON ABORTION, (pay attention bozo, this is the important bit now) IS THAT IT IS NOT A FEDERAL ISSUE. IT IS A STATE MATTER, ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION.\

    SO what has Ron Paul’s personal beliefs about Abortion got to do with it you fuckwit? He does not propose to have any say in the matter at all! He specifically relegates that to a state responsibility. I know this is way beyond what you can probably understand.

    After all I am an Australian and even though you are around the other side of this globe, that means I have an education and the ability to reason which you have not got, as your education system is currently third world in standard. You turn out illiterate college graduates for god’s sake. I try to communicate with your so called college graduates regularly and find a level of intellect and articulacy beneath that of my own primary school aged children. You whatever you are, are an excellent case in point, no matter what your education level your ability to reason is clearly non existent whilst your empty headed, inherited or programmed opinions persist in dribbling out of your mind like shit from a leaking sewer pipe.

    Oh I might have used a word you don’t know the meaning of too.

    I think it would be surreal for an Australian Rabbit to have to lecture a yank on the CONSTITUTION, so I suggest you go look it up. (Fat chance, I expect we’ll get some more empty headed bullshit from you instead.)

    Frankly I could not care less if you support some of Paul’s positions or not.

    I personally think that support from someone like you would be worse than none at all. They don’t need you. Like they say, may your chains sit lightly upon you, and may history forget you were ever their countryman.

    OH and PS: I do hope you excusers for the murdering, lesbian Clinton bitch appreciate my own excessive profanity. I think it is so appropriate considering your reactions to the truth. It is not the profanity morons, it is the beast which utters them and what it stands for.

  88. Rabbit Says:

    Not testy Marky. There are many more emotions that the two or three you are programmed with.

    There are various words which would describe my feelings for you and your sort. Begginning with disgust, loathing and contempt. I can assure you that since it is not my nation which is on the line and no matter what you fuckwits do, we will get by regardless, I am frankly almost ambivalent. However truth and right do matter to me, and that is something which has no meaning to you because you cannot recognize either, so I am inclined to be very disgusted by such totally useless beings as you and your empty meaningless drivel.

    As for testy, not really, you see I am quite content, comfortable and my country is not facing economic and social ruin. It is a nice sunny day and I am making lots of money just sitting here waiting for the machinery in my factory to crank out another kayak. Meanwhile I am indulging in some quite fun abuse of some truly deserving morons. Said morons have no means to reciprocate, because neither their education, or reality lends itself to the purpose.

    I imagine you are not enjoying having so much self evident and undeniable truth jammed full throttle down your flag humping neck however and the phony “You are getting angry” response you cretins think covers for your own lack of an argument, is so old even your own kind hardly uses that one anymore.

    What I really hate, what really makes me mad though, is the Clinton Bitch. Because unlike you bozo, I have a memory and recall quite well what went on under the last Clinton presidency, and it wasn’t a blowjob from a silly office tart. I also, unlike you, actually do my research and know full well that the Clinton Bitch is one of the vilest human beings on this planet.
    \
    That is by far the majority opinion also and thus up to you to challenge. I guess you must be an illegal immigrant are you? Maybe you just love illegal immigrants? Because the Clinton Bitch does, on behalf of her masters of course. Martial Law seems like a great idea for you and Nuclear attacks on non aggressive NON nuclear states seems pretty good to you8 to I guess. What a great way to make the USA great again. Start a Nuclear war. Oh yes that should do it.

    What is the problem with electing your own president? Why do you just leave it to the corporations and Zionists to do for you and then act like you wanted their choice all along? Do you even realize that the Clinton Bitch is dropping sharply in the polls and is far from a certainty thanks to a genuine grass roots revolution by real live patriotic Americans?

    If she had to run against a genuine candidate, like Ron Paul she will be blown away in the wind. BUT oh no, you would rather have a simple choice between a Giant Douchebag and a Turd Sandwich. Perish the thought that the American people might actually choose their own president, you’d rather the Diebold machines gave you the candidate the elitists want for the country. I know it is hard to think for yourself, if you’ve never done it before, but you should practice. Once your country collapses in the next couple of years, you are going to need a whole lot of new thinking I can assure you.

  89. Mark Linham Says:

    Rabbit,

    The only turds I seem to br “munching” are your replies.

    Have you considered the source of all the stuff about Vince Foster and Arkansas? It was a one-man crusade, one Richard Melon Scaife, who almost single-handedly generated the talking points that launched one Rush Limbaugh’s national radio career.

    Again, talking points from our country’s political right wing simply are NOT credible. As an Australian, you might not know that.

    And, I’m aware that Ron Paul (might) not try to ban abortion, because of matter of it being the several states’ alleged right to decide this matter.
    I simply hold that no collective may be allowed to violate basic individual rights. And the ability to control your own body is just about as basic as it gets.

  90. Mark Linham Says:

    P.S. I’m not an illegal, or legal visitor, or even a a legal, naturalized citizen. I’m a native with full US citizenship from birth.

  91. randyremote Says:

    Kinda funny that, with video and audio going on all the time, the only cussing from Hillary is in the bashing books. I read “Unlimited Access” at the behest of a conservative friend, and found it laughable. It was all “I heard someone say that someone else said” this or that. Where’s the tape, folks?
    Also kinda funny that an otherwise intelligent woman who has every reason to
    hide her lesbian liaisons from public scrutiny can’t figure out how to lock a door.
    There is a name for this, by the way: misogyny. Basic fear/hatred of women based on one’s own insecurity.
    I’m not a Hillary supporter, btw.

  92. Rabbit Says:

    Marky there is far more to the Vince Foster story than you seem to know, but I frankly have as much interest in trying to teach a moron how to tie it’s shoelaces as I have in trying to explain that you are not even comprehending my words let alone “munching” on them.

    That is but one issue. There was a string of suspicious deaths around the Clintons, many of which wee very well documented as to their significance and even down to many of the specifics of the “murders” for such they were. Then my little bozoid, we can consider Iraq, which was decimated under the most medieval, over the tops sanctions of modern history. Then we could consider WACO, though maybe such a sheep as you thinks they were terrorists who should have been deliberately murdered in a massive assault based upon falsified evidence and a string of lies.

    There were many other violent, murderous acts of genocide committed by Billo, whilst Hitlery cheered on the side, that is whilst she wasn’t occupied munching between the legs of other women, in the next room from where Billo was doing the same no doubt. The history of the Bitch, the sort of statements she has made, some of which are reproduced above make clear she is the beast from hell. She is totally committed to the Israel lobby and puts their interests above ALL OTHERS and that also was her own words. I could go on, but see no point for you are in deep denial mode and reality is but a distant buzz in your ears.

    You can forget the suggestion I am anything but vastly more informed than you, something I have proven repeatedly here without even trying. Your own statements damn you you poseur. You say you are well aware that Paul might NOT ty to ban abortion. That is so stupid as to be laughable, again. It is simple you shithead.

    Ron Paul has stated categorically that he would have NO SAY in the issue of Aboortion. His voting record is 100% solid, he has NEVER gone against his word or the principle of constitutional government. So your words ring utterluy hollow. Everyone who actually pays attention knows without a doubt that PAUL WILL NOT BAN ABORTION. Yet you say you are well aware he “might not”. Even you should be able to see the total non sequiter. That itself shows simply that you are not aware of a damned thing actually. Also you are now flipping back on what you proposed was a major issue. It isn’t relevant at all. That isn’t hard to understand matey, it is simple and easily comprehended in the constitution. I think you should go look that word up, go on and see if you can find where the constitution is involved in the office of the presidency. Go on, I dare you. Don’t come and tell us you know all about it, you have just finished proving you have not got a clue.

    Your last sentence is nothing but empty drum beating. So what? What has any collective got to do with Ron Paul running for president? Would you maybe have the president make abortion a federal matter would you? Then you have no concept of your constitutional government or how it is to be protected. Your entire second last paragraph is totally meaningless now in light of the points you have attempted to make. You have apparently disappeared up your own backside son. You are now talking about totally no related issues.

    Your final sentence is an exercise in abject stupidity. The point was apparently lost on you that Hitlery Clinton is entirely supportive of illegal immigration, because that is what her corporate master want. Like a good sheep you obviously want it too. You seem overly concerned about a few fetuses yet supremely indifferent to the deaths and sufferings of millions of innocent men women and FULLY BORN ALIVE CHILDREN! You are exactly the sort of groveling shit for brains moron which has brought the USA to the brink of disaster by being so totally tuned into the bullshit you think your shit is cake these days.

    You I think made the comment earlier that you would vote for anyone rather than more of Bush and Cheney. I cannot be bothered to check, but if it was, let me just tune you up. Neither Bush nor Cheney will be running in 2008. You may be a native of the USA, which is far from something to be proud of in this world I can promise you, but as for being a true patriotic American you are not. I know such people and they would rather you were not among them. These people stand for the America you like to boast about, the one you have helped to destroy the one which if fuckwits like you have their way, will never rise again. There is only one candidate who is talking truth, sense and who is committed to the constitution. He is the only one who will do anything different than the current crop of war criminals and incompetent perverts in office, and that is Ron Paul. Trouble with you is you are so far up your own arse by now with your garbage deluded imaginings that you can no longer recognize a true leader a true man of courage and honor and principles. If you are the majority in the USA, then you never will get such a president either.

    I sometimes meet Aussies who make me shudder to think that they can, (and here must) vote. But it is nothing compared to the shock and truly disturbing implications of people like you being able to vote. Thankfully I imagine that someone who beats out such an empty gonging tune on his little drum, probably does not get off his fat arse to vote anyway.

    Like I said you are a great argument for abortion.
    I I thought you were capable of learning, then I would give you a dozen more very substantial reasons why Hitlery Clinton would be the worst possible outcome, bar maybe Giuliani.

  93. Rabbit Says:

    randyremote you may or may not be a Hillaroid supporter but you nhave completely missed the point of this article and of people’s objection to the satanic whore.

    My guess is you didn’t read more than the heading. Actually there is a great deal of video evidence of this sort of vileness coming out of the Hillaroid’s mouth. I am amazed how many yanks think they can refute something by pure invention. Again though you cretins, it is not about the language, but the implications. There was also some very disturbing quotes above a=which had no profanity in them but they would not have been worse if they had.

    What part of “Cheerleader for Fascism and Genocide” escapes you?

  94. Rabbit Says:

    You people are so fucking stupid it is fascinating. You actually went berserk over Bill Clinton getting a blowjob from a willing intern and it wasn’t as if his wife even minded, she’ been covering up his peccadilloes forever. You impeached him for that. Yet you didn’t care less, and still don’t that he was a War Criminal and a despicable lying bastard who also murdered innocent women and children in the good ole USA.

    Here in Oz if someone accused our PM of such a thing Aussies would be beside themselves with mirth. Firstly we would doubt it because we know he would never be unfaithful to George Bush. Secondly we could not care less. He isn’t running the country with his dick, frankly he can stick it anywhere he likes so long as it isn’t up our collective arses. BUT he is supporting War Crimes now and selling our national self respect down the river. we are very unpopular in the world now when once we were universally respected and liked. Thanks Howard, so he is going now, that you can be certain of.

    You don’t even care that your election system is hijacked and is being run on provably shonky machines along with all manner of vote rigging. Why do you even vote if the machines choose it for you?

    Doesn’t it register with you idiots that NOTHING George Bush and his gang have done has been opposed by the DNC or the Clinton Bitch?

    There is only one party in the USA in worse shape than the GOP, and that is the DNC. At least the GOP have a fighting chance of being rescued thanks to Ron Paul and the real Amercians who are going to try and take back their country, while you sit like cringing little wankers and wait for them to do it for you. I have no doubt such rainy day patriots like you will be first in line to claim credit the day the USA is become a constitutional democracy again, meanwhile you’ll just play it safe and keep on sucking down the Koolaid. Don’t go stepping out of line there and make sure you stay inside the protest zones.

    Do you remember when Habeus Corpus had meaning in the USA? To the rest of the world it is still the founding principle of law but do you recall how you once had it? Recall how you used to be free and able to express any opinion without facing eavesdropping, detention and no fly lists? Not that such freedoms mean anything to gutless cringers I know.

    40% of Americans believe that Iraq was behind 9/11. Now that is a very telling figure. You are probably one of them too. I am also sure you might pretend you are not, but if not then you are one of the few who believes the sort of crap you do, who does not.

  95. Rabbit Says:

    I suppose I should not be rude to you, after all you are all “Good Germans”.

  96. Rabbit Says:

    Randy

    “””Also kinda funny that an otherwise intelligent woman who has every reason to
    hide her lesbian liaisons from public scrutiny can’t figure out how to lock a door.”””

    You totally miss the point. Surprise surprise. Such elitists as Hitlery Clinton have no need to hide any such things. Firstly they figure they own the world and secondly, dickheads like you will always be there to run interference for the truth so it can do little harm. Especially in a nation so dumbed down as yours.

    Frankly we in the wider world watch the USA as it sinks into debauchery and disaster, with increasingly amazed fascination. We wonder if there is anything evil enough, gross enough or dishonest enough that you as a nation will stand up and say enough. So far it seems not. You have invented a new crime against all life, called Omnicide and yet you still call yourselves God’s gift to the world, and a Christian example no less.

    Genocide was once known as the ultimate crime. NOW thanks to DU weapons, long banned by the civilized world we have a new crime to top them all. OMNICIDE.

    You are still proud of your little dungheap though. Good onyas. I think it is poetic justice that so many of you are frantically humping those flags, and spouting empty slogans and trying to defend the indefensible; as you sink into the swamp of the abyss. Absolutely classic. Down down you go cretins. Glug glug glug. hey I can just about buy one US dollar now for one AUD. What is the bet that by this time next year, I’ll be able to buy two or three US dollars for my one AUD?

    I know you think that is no problem, so what you8 say I can still use my $US in the USA, but you have a wee problem. Everything in the USA is imported just about. Most significantly your energy. I have just joined a class action here to demand our energy companies stop pricing our energy in US dollars by the way. Don’t worry about Iran, the whole world is tired of your dirty and sinking currency. The gig is up, you are going bankrupt and Hitlery is just one of those who did it to you.

  97. Mark Linham Says:

    Rabbit,

    You’re laboring under so many misapprehensions.

    1) I am pro-abortion rights. I think I’ve made that clear here. So it is meaningless for you to say I’m a living argument for legal abortion, as I don’t believe you have to argue for that with me.
    I think I’ve made it clear that I don’t give a damn about dead fetuses.. obviously.

    2) I’m obviously one of my country’s liberals (also known as progressives, or the left-wing), in any case I’m not a member or supporter of the US Republican Party.

    but..

    It might puzzle you to be informed that I, and many others like me, are quite aware – and dismayed – at the betrayal of our cause by the US Democratic Party. They are, by-and-large, quislings.. traitors almost without exception, and should be impeached themselves as well.

    Still, nevertheless, a party that has as its principal political current the establishment of a THEOCRACY (for us, that’s the Republican Party) is more dangerous still.

    As bad as the Clinton presidency was in absolute terms, most of us remember those as “the good old days” relative to what is happening now.
    I realize that this isn’t saying enough.

  98. Mark Linham Says:

    Another point for you to consider, Rabbit:

    I’m not the Mark who posted to remark dismissing the North American Union as a mere conspiracy theory. I’m a different “Mark”. Mark number One, I believe, if you will.

    I’m aware of the North American Union, and I’m apprehensive about it.

    Also: a message to the other Mark, if you see this:
    The term, “conspiracy theory”, refers to a an alleged deliberate plan. The word “theory” in no way implies that the allegation in question is not true.
    Discover the scientific meaning of the word “theory”.

  99. Mark Linham Says:

    It was the REPUBLICANS who went bezerk over Clinton’s blow job, not myself and other progressive Americans.

    I don’t suppose it’ll do to tell you that liberals and liberalism are not in control of the USA’s military, industrial machine, and likely won’t be any time soon, I’m afraid. No, it is by-and-large, the rightists, corporatists, theocrats.. representatives of entrenched privilege and power-for-power’s-sake that are committing the omnicide.

    “Amurikans” are not a monolithic, lock-step group.

    It may be a moot point, but most of us did not approve the use of DU munitions, or the largely America-based corporate imperialism that I agree has besieged so much of the world. This kind of thing, though, is also older than the USA, let alone, our individual selves, and I won’t deny that it must be stopped.

  100. Mark Linham Says:

    I’m NOT one the Americans who believes Iraq was behind 9-11. I think I know who was behind it, without proof, but I sure as hell don’t believe our LYING 9-11 Commission Report.

    It was obviously an inside job, complete with thermate cutting charges carefully placed in the affected WTC buildings. Probably enough evidence exists to bring indictments. Under the circumstances, it is a real challenge to bring together all of the evidence to do that. We all know where said investigation should focus first, at least: our so-called Vice President.

  101. Mark Linham Says:

    “Habeas Corpus” now means: “We have the corpse”.

  102. Rabbit Says:

    Marky you are the one labouring un der a series of misaprehensions. Your comprehension skills are also very poor, which does not exactly surprise

    @Mark (see how you just rose a notch?)
    “”I’m NOT one the Americans who believes Iraq was behind 9-11. I think I know who was behind it, without proof, but I sure as hell don’t believe our LYING 9-11 Commission Report.””

    How excellent. I have to admit that while your ideas about Hitlery are very confused yet and there is no rationale to them, you do seem to have evolved beyond the apelike minority of your countrymen after all. Kudos for that. For myself as a retired explosives tech and Pyrotechnician, I knew on 9/11 what happened to those buildings and have been a very active 9/11 truther ever since.

    “Habeas Corpus” now means: “We have the corpse”.

    Yes Mark that is a literal interpretation. It actually refers to the rights of an accused person to see and access the body of evidence against them in the event they are charged under the law with a crime. Under Bush this has been essentially eliminated as an inalienable right. Hitlery Clinton has never even had a problem with the elimination of Habeus Corpus or any of the freedoms or rights you once held as Bush has destroyed them one after another. Indeed she is licking her bloody chops in anticipation of using all those lovely oppressive laws against her opponents and people who speak out, complain and who want the sorts of things it appears you are seeking, despite your evident confusion about where how they might be achieved.

    Meanwhile there is a candidate who has stated without any hesitation that he will reinstate ALL those rights, notably Habeus Corpus among them. He has promised to repeal the Patriots and those other nasty Military Commissions acts etc. Furthermore unlike any of the other candidates, he voted against all of these things when the Criminal Bush Junta introduced them. That is important you see, because consistency is usually considered a desirable trait in a politician. Can you guess who that candidate is?

    I actually recognize you are not an idiot, just a moron. But it might pass. So I won’t insult your intelligence anymore by naming him for you. I think you might have the drift by now. Just a hint though, it is NOT Obama.

  103. lee jones Says:

    just read the posts and im not an american. rabbit has put into words very well what the majority of the civilized world that actually gives a shit is thinking. he’s right if you don’t do something now and take your rights back you won’t ever see them again. you seem to have trouble realizing that by taking certain rights away. organizing eavesdropping on the masses and creating the framework for marshall law its a second or two to midnight. we can see it coming. this is what stalin done (almost exactly) before murdering 50million people. hillary has already said she does not think of the general public as human. scary. american dictators are in power they were not elected. why do you think you can change things now the dog and pony show will keep you occupied until too late. if you do something at home maybe the rest of the world will be safe. you will have U.N soldiers on your streets next year. under marshall law who better to kill amerikans than those people who have been fucked over by you.

  104. lee jones Says:

    they call them “peacekeepers” to maintain law at the point of a gun while you are stripped of everyting. to stop you fighting back.

  105. lee jones Says:

    fuck habeus corpus….posse comentatus is what keeps the military off your streets and it has gone.

  106. lee jones Says:

    fuck habeus corpus

    is that Necrophilia…..

  107. Rabbit Says:

    Unfortunately I lost a lot of that post so must repeat it.

    1) I know you are pro abortion rights Mark. My point was that you are a justification for abortion in living colour. My point which must have been too subtle, sorry, was that you should have been aborted.

    2) Liberal appears to mean you support people who have been and will be again mass murderers? It means you support the White house becoming a whore house and the genocide and plunder which goes along with corrupt corporate owned presidents. the biggest difference between a Clinton and Bush presidency is that instead of lesbian and rampant heterosexual running about ducking and sucking all over the place, it is a bunch of faggots committing buggery all over. Meanwhile it is business as usual.

    If you are so disenchanted with the Dems, who are far more lost without any light at the end of the tunnel than the Reps, who at least have a chance with Paul, then why the hell are you working overtime to justify their beastly choice of a candidate? There is no question about who will be their candidate. None at all.

    There is no desire within the Republican party to establish a theocracy. The NeoCons who have hijacked the party have played to the fundamentalist Christians for their own ends but their actions have been anti Christian whether removing references to God from public buildings, banning Christmas, decorations, prayers in schools etc. Usually I might add as a result of the Jewish lobby even though it is ofetn falsely reported as due to a Muslim lobby. LOL What Muslim lobby?

    Meanwhile Ron Paul is running as a CONSTITUTIONALIST, and his stated position is separation of Church and State, so why do you once again introduce this total non-sequiter? It has nothing to do with anything at all; we are talking about. You really need to assemble your thoughts a bit more coherently.

    Just because the putrid garbage of the Clinton presidency tasted better than the shit of the Bush one, does not make the putrid garbage cake. The Clinton presidency was not the good old days and what is more if that si your attitude then rest assured that you will soon be looking back on Bush’s reign as the good old days too. You can have someone else but a Bush or Clinton for pres you know> And if you cannot then what does that tell you? is accepting what you are forced to accept the way now is it? The Clinton presidency, with the new fascist system and dictatorial powers cerated by the Bush regime would be a nightmare of terrible proportions.

    A point you seem to have lost yourself, is that I said I was not sure if it was you who spoke of Conspiracy Theories, and as I said I could not be bothered to check. I am pleased my memory was good enough that it was another mark though. I also agree with what you tell to this Mark.

    It is totally NOT the republican party which controls the military it is the presidency and it is controlled by the Military Industrial complex, the Zionists and the elite secret mafia. The Clinton presidency committed the same crimes as the Bush one using the same military and another Clinton pres will do the same. So your point is null and void.

    Murikans are a lockstep group. It is just that some march under a Blue banner and some under a red one. That is to fool you into thinking you have two different parties. see how it works great too? You actually beleive there is a difference.

    Yes, it is a moot point that not all Americans support the use of DU. You are making excuses for someone who will be happy to keep using it whilst you dare to oppose the one and only candidate who would stop it. Kind of makes it moot don’t you think? Your hands are as bloody as any other Americans I assure you.

    You talk a good line son but when you speak of it having to be stopped, then support a candidate who would not stop but actually increase its use whilst you try to denigrate one who would stop it, you simply lose all credibility.

    You really do need to assemble your thoughts in to a rational and coherent format. You say you believe one thing yet support the one who would do the polar opposite. Among the many points you failed to grasp, taking instead some silly idea from it as if I was making a point about you being an illegal immigrant is that Hitlery supports illegal immigration, because her corporate masters do.

  108. Rabbit Says:

    One last thing Mark. Hitlery like nearly all the other candidates is for the NAU. One notable exception is, Ron Paul.

  109. Madman McGill Says:

    Man Rabbit you sure can spuw the shit! I hope you are paying as much attention to whats happening in your own country as you are to ours. Remember the USA saved saved your dingo eating asses from the japs. You would be sitting on the floor eating raw fish heads if not for the “greatest country on earth”. We may be going through a rough patch be we will prevail as long as we don’t let the socialists take over our politics. We have let go on for too long already. I’m not a Ron Paul supporter but if he wins the primary and runs against Hitlery I will vote for him. Hell Mr. Magoo was the only choice against the queen bitch I vote for him. And yes as bad as Bush has been I woulkd vote for him over the bitch in a heartbeat.

  110. Dave Says:

    I am not at all surprised at how crude of a person she is. Her language shows her lack of intellect and her abusive behavior to people around her shows her inability to provide the leadership quality this country needs. I want to watch her debate the questions that she can’t hide behind! ! !

  111. Madman McGill Says:

    Oh ya, the only people Bush has suspended habeus corpus for is TERRORISTS and enemys of our country. You are safe my friend and its because we can take these islamofasist idiots and throw them in a cell so they can’t spread their terror. If you are a good loyal patriotic american you are safe! This country was founded on Christian principles. I think the founders meant that the government has no right to establish religon as a part of government. That is what is meant by separation of church and state. Not that the government can base our laws and priniples on christian values. We have done very well using these priciples for two hundred years. We lose if we let athiests turn this country into a godless socialist nightmare. History has proved that it does not work.

  112. patricksperry Says:

    Well stated Madman. No, our nation is not perfect. Can anyone name one that is, or has been in recorded history?
    I simply refuse to vote for any Clinton, period.
    The steps are already in place to change this nation into a Peoples Republic, and it is there for any and all to see, if people would just open their eyes.
    1: Disarm the people. That way they simply cannot resist. Read; Gun Control.
    2: Gag them. Read speech control. Destroy the ability to share ideas and assemble them as political positions. Anyone thinking McCain / Fiengold..?
    3: Manipulate Votes: Make them think that this is what they wanted.
    4: Convince the people that this is in fact a democracy. That way they can destroy the Bill of Rights completely. Read; Two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner.

  113. Dave Says:

    Cudos to you McGill, and all of our ability’s to openly discuss these issues without being locked up. Let the international bankers and their hinchmen continue on the path of Take take take and everything our Grandfathers and their grandfather fought to preserve will be handed away in an instance. Our laws need to be inturpretted as written, not as the Supreme court sees fit, Keeping the Socialistic Clintons as far away from power in making those desicions will benefit even those that don’t have the forsight to see where they are trying to take this country.

  114. gunnyg Says:

    Good show!

    Semper Fidelis
    Dick Gaines

    http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/

  115. Dave Says:

    I am new to this Blog and already LOVE IT! ! ! !

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  117. patricksperry Says:

    Semper Fi Gunny, and Happy belated Birthday!

  118. Robun Whitlow Says:

    >>>These pinhead far leftist democrats need to shown that the people are on to them. Their agenda is to make this country a socialist marxist state. The Clintons are in on it as well as Pelosi, Read and the rest. Moveon.org is their enabler. The Chinese and the Russians have been conspiring to break this country apart and bring us down. And now we have Iran and Venuseula trying to destroy our economy. And they succeeding. Beware you simple minded fools. Voting in the left wing of the Democrats is dangerous and will bring an end to our society as we know it.<<<

    This could also be put:
    These pinhead far right republicans need to shown that the people are on to them. Their agenda is to make this country a socialist marxist fascist state. The Bushs are in on it as well as Chenney, Wolfowitz, Gulianni and most presidential candidates. Read about the CFR whos stated oal is to destroy the soverignity of this countryinto a single world government, father Bushs’ “NewWorld Order.

    Little George may not have been joking when he said 2 or 3 times that it would be so much easier if this were a dictatorship – just so long as he is the dictator.

    The right and the left are both on the same bus, some just sit on the right, some sit on the left. It’s not the good guys on the right and the bad guys on the left – break free of your rigid little mindset and wake up to the fact that both are played against each other as a little game to make you think you have a choice. You don’t, it’s an illusion that keeps you busy hating one side or the other while the CFR brings this country into the one world government along with ALL other countries.

    So if you think you are safe in your country sneering at the stupid US, think again. It starts here, the UK and moves out to YOU.

  119. Neil Stalkingbear Says:

    This should be required reading. I’m gunna find a copy of that book.

  120. TexasFred Says:

    Well, looks like you found a hot button topic, all you gotta do is call Hillary a bitch or Ron Paul a dumbass and the termites come out of the wood…

    Good show!! :)

  121. randyremote Says:

    My dear, poor rabbit.
    I said there was no actual tape of Hillary’s alleged fondness for swearing. You said I had not read the article. Guess what? EVERY instance of swearing in the article was from an anti-Hillary book. No tape. Meanwhile, we have ample tape of Bush and Cheney flipping the bird, swearing and telling people to f**k off. Duh.
    Calling Hillary a “satanic whore” sort of underscores my point about the misogyny behind threatened white males like yourself.
    Your points about depleted uranium and the arrogant imperialistic US agenda are true enough. But that is Bush Inc. Duh again.
    You assume Americans support such an agenda. Mostly they don’t. They got hoodwinked into it, certainly from their sheeplike gullibility, not to mention a complicit corporate media with no god but money.
    Your intellectual training wheels, as well as the seething hatred in your heart are evident from your writing. Get help.
    I don’t see why conservatives hate the Clintons so much. Bill balanced the budget-and conservatives seem to love money more than anything else. He also gutted public welfare, and conservatives seem to hate welfare more than anything else, unless it is corporate welfare. Clinton sheparded the NAFTA AND GATT policies that killed American jobs. He was not left at all. Repeat, he was not left at all, even though he pretended to be until he got into office. From a conservative point of view, what’s not to like? And they act like he’s freaking Karl Marx on steroids. I can’t figure it out. Meanwhile, Bush has wrecked the economy, accrued massive debt, and caused our country to be hated worldwide. Unless you are a millionaire, and have benefited from his huge tax giveaways and gov’t contracts, what’s to like?

  122. Dave Says:

    I would like all of you to do some research on the second budget the US Govt. has to submit to the library of congress. There is the one we see and the one we don’t get to see. All of the issues that are talked about are smoke and mirror issues when you learn the truth. Four years ago it was in excess of 75 Tillion dollars. That would mean You, your children, their children, and their children would never have to pay “A” (singular) Tax again. I challenge each of you to search the records and prove me wrong!

  123. Dave Says:

    TRILLION,…sorry, never said I could spell.

  124. little billy Says:

    F*ckity f*ck f*ck f*ckity f*ck f*ck f*ck..

    Hateful

    Ignorant

    Ludicris

    Lame

    Arrogant

    Recanting

    Yetti

    Honestly, give this woman a bar of soap.

  125. Dave Says:

    Can You say WhiteWater,…and Vince Foster?

  126. Dave Says:

    Why isn’t anyone in the media talking about these Criminal activities,…you don’t have to answer (retorical).

  127. Pirandello Says:

    You stupid stupid americans. My god, you are a bunch of retarded idiots. They said you were not ready for a female president, and I’m shocked to see they were right. You really think she is any more a elitist than Bush or any other president? You really think she swears more than any other strong president or ceo that need to be in a position of respect? You dumb fu*ks dont see how this woman, because she is a woman in america, has had to harden up and take alot of shit to be where she is now? You are really going to hate her on basis of THIS? When you stupid braindead morons managed to elect George Bush into office? The whole world was telling you, screaming, making it obvious, that Bush is a idiot and a rightwing extremist – the signs were EVERYWHERE! It was obvious! We tried to tell you!!!! But you, as allways, too fu*cking stupid to listen or understand. And now you see danger in Hillary because she yells to some guards? Maybe she apologized afterwards, but you dont know anything about that do you? No, cause you are idiots and because you are idiots you will allways ALLWAYS be manipulated!

  128. Indian in the machine Says:

    Black budget us government has been in the human cloning business for several decades…….each major player in the us government has several clones, they do the exchange at camp david http://www.fourwinds10.com/journals. Each major player is programmed to lead humanity off of a cliff…..the Light also has a response to this.

    Check out my website Indian in the machine to see what’s been happening in the canadian sky…..it looks like our planet is getting visitation. Thank you for using your thought energy to welcome them to our planet so that we can receive their assistance.

    Dieter
    Indian in the machine

  129. Indian in the machine Says:

    Hilary’s dark energy comes from the same energy currently been exhibit in many countries including canada. There are now public taser executions here in canada using the “royal” canadian mounted police…. check out this link
    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071121.TASER21/TPStory/National

    Stay in the Light folks…..let’s all bring in the end of darkness on our planet with our Light and with our Love.

    Dieter
    Indian in the machine

  130. Clive Says:

    Hillaryz a douchebag

  131. Merk Linham Says:

    Nancy Pelosi could be the first female US president, if she would just grow a set of ovaries and IMPEACH monkeyman.

  132. Merk Linham Says:

    Addendum: .. and Darth Vader, too!

  133. Merk Linham Says:

    Excuse Moi.. *Mark* Linham

  134. Mark Linham Says:

    I never said I was for Hillary.. Generally speaking, I’m not. Hillary is basically an opportunistic, compromising, willing-to-do-anything-to-get-elected core member of the establishment.

    But implying that there is a comparison here to Adolph Hitler is really just a bit over the top. She hasn’t provided evidence that she’s that bad.

    There are lots of bad politicians. But I have to agree with a recent poster here, regarding the truly extreme invective coming at Hillary Clinton. To single out Hillary Clinton for the kind of hatred she seems to get from some quarters – either without any specific evidence justifying it, or with “evidence” taken from the Richard Melon Scaife propaganda empire – comes off as being just so much misogyny.

    If you’re going to single out someone as particularly evil and worthy of such utter condemnation as many in this thread do regarding Hillary Clinton, your evidence to support your case should be at least somewhat more unimpeachable than the mere word of some partisan propagandist.. at least if you endeavor to be fair about it.

    I’m sorry, Rabbit, but you’re simply wrong. The evidence is overwhelming that the Christian religious right has set the agenda for the Republican Party at least since shortly before the 1980 Reagan presidential election (really going back further than that). And though there has been *some* disenchantment with the party on the religious right in the past two years, or so, thanks to some of the smarter ones among them recognizing the Bush regime for the cynical, manipulative thing that it is, this is still largely true. Is this all a non-sequitur vis-a-vis the Ron Paul candidacy, as you assert?
    Then, why is Ron Paul running as a Republican, instead of Democrat? If there truly is NO difference between the two branches of the Republocrat Party, as some here believe (and I do too, sometimes), then why choose the Republican group, when it is obvious that that group is associated with such stupid religious bigotry? It goes without saying that not all Christians are that way, but the rightist political Christians who want to police other people’s sexual activities, burn books and popular music albums, and ban contraception or abortion, are.

    I am a liberal (which actually in my case, means left-libertarian-republican (small letters only)) who no longer trusts our mainstream politicians much anymore, and so I’m taking many of the opposing points made here under advisement. And I totally agree that Ron Paul should get the Republican Party nomination. Though I clearly believe that no one should consent to be a member of that rotten party, Ron Paul’s victory within that party would make the Republican Party more friendly to rational values, and possibly spare our country, and the world, continued assaults from that party’s more authoritarian agenda.

    Madman McGill: Bush is only rounding up terrorists, and not innocent people? Since it is plainly evident that the Bush regime cannot be trusted, you mustn’t just assume this.

    Is Hillary as dangerous to civil liberties as many here are asserting? After the utterly disgraceful performance of many Democrats lately, including Hillary herself (advocating the continuation of our misguided war), and as distrustful as I have now become of establishment politicians, generally, I honestly don’t know anymore. But my point was, and still is, that one should have more substantial reasons for supposing the absolute worst about someone, as many here apparently do, than mere feelings; in this case, feelings of hostility toward a woman because she doesn’t fit into the mold of “traditional values” as some see it, isn’t a Republican, and has a caustic-tongue at that – or the mere word of some opposition partisan (R. M. Scaife, et. al.).

  135. Madman McGill Says:

    Your all a bunch of airheads, especially the ones from Canaduh, and Europa. You all lost to the PC police and let your countries be over run by commies and terrorist psychos. Socialist democrat pinheads have turned you all into godless pacifists. America is strong because its people will stare down its enemies and kick their ass if they cross us. Clinton was a coward, he let this nation be attacked time and time again and did nothing. Bush attacked the islamofacist bastards and that scumbag Saddam and now we haven’t been attacked since. GET IT! kick ass and take names later. Outside forces are at the center of the split in american politics. Our enemies want to divide us and cause us fight each other. The Russians and China are doing it, the jihadist’s are doing it and everyone wants to stick their head up Hillary’s skirt and have a sniff. Now I’m gettin angry!

  136. Madman McGill Says:

    I used to ba liberal, I voted for Clinton the first time around and that lying bastard raised my taxes to the moon and sat on his ass and let someone else run the country. He gave NAFTA and let corporations move all of our manufacturing jobs overseas. After what the Dems have said about our troops and how Pelosie and lefty gang the Pinheads elected into office in 06 have tried to under mine our troops in a time of war I will never ever vote Democrat again. And I’m not a big Bush fan either. He has gone out of his mind with the imigration problem and not conducting the war in Iraq properly, But Things have been ok around here. We havent been attacked, the economy is ok not great but ok(I have a job do you?) So we are hated around the world, the popular kid usually is. I don’t see how anyone could vote for the Dems. They aren’t going to change things for the better. We will be seen as losers if pack up and leave Iraq. We will be taxed to the hilt and we will be pushed back to our borders by our enemies. I have God, Guns and Guts and I dare the commies bastards to try and take any of that away.

  137. Nigel Birch Says:

    The quotes ARE, in fact, true. If you don’t care to read the books (I don’t after having read just one out of morbid curiosity), then do a little research and verify the validity of the quotes. You’ll find they are indeed.
    A friend of mine is a retired secret service agent. When I asked him recently at a party if the things I’ve heard/read over the years about Hiliary were true (i.e. she has a horrible potty mouth and she is a lesbian), he just smiled and said, “She smokes like a chimney.” (Nice avoidance, ay?)
    I read another source about a year ago re how various presidents/first ladies have treated/treat the secret service. To avoid a diatribe, the best and better liked were Gerald Ford, Betty, George W (yes, “W”) and Laura. The worst? You guessed it, Hiliary. She belittled them constantly and treated them in the most condescending manner ever.
    I’ve joked for years, saying, “If that woman ever runs for president, a prerequisite must be shaving her head and closely looking for those three, infamous sixes!” Laughing? Could be!
    Disappointed in Bush, but AFRAID of Hiliary,
    NB

  138. ben Says:

    Aah, she’s just in time to take up her role in the destruction of the earth, just like the good little puntual girl that she is. Bush may be mad but Hillary is evil.

  139. Madman McGill Says:

    After reading what Ron Paul is all about(I thought he was just another kook) I might just vote for him. If anything just to upset the status quo. Some of his ideas are brilliant and some are about as kooky as you can get. Of course he would never get much of what he wants past congress but it would be fun to shake things up. Maybe I’ll vote for paul in the primary and then vote for whoever runs against Hitlery. I just read an article by David Dukes about his support for Paul. I’m not a fan of Dukes but he sure seems to make sense.

  140. Mark Linham Says:

    It is true that in 1992, President Clinton passed what, at that time, was the largest tax increase in US history. And now Bush has, in effect, outclassed him in this regard by skyrocketing the federal budget deficit..

    The budget deficit is that “indirect tax” that Ron Paul refers to: deficit “financing” made possible by the fiat-currency-based banking system.

    Actual productiveness will save our economy, not currency manipulations and wars – however justified – that only enrich certain special interests.

    By actual productiveness, I mean a renewed special industrial focus on the central role of scientists and engineers, and their works; notably amateur techs and tinkerers, not just tenured university and government researchers. There must be special emphasis on the development and marketing of innovative, new energy technologies that have until now been suppressed, or discouraged, such as cold fusion, the 200 mpg carburetor, etheric energy, et al, just to protect the technological status quo for our privileged class. New tech development would not only solve the atmospheric carbon problem, but actually increase standards of living around the world, if configured properly: namely, distributed, individually owned power production, and not the centralized “grid” we’re so familiar with now.

    As for you “new world order” types who want to exterminate the rest of us because we are overpopulating the planet, you should realize that people with rising standards of living, who have free and ready access to all birth control methods, have no trouble responsibly controlling the size of their families.
    So stop worrying about overpopulation, and please stop trying to kill us. Help us instead to become rich, happy and responsible people by taking the lid off new technological development.

    You have nothing to fear from happy, strong people.

  141. Northern Brian Says:

    Holy f***ing s**t! I cannot believe the f***ing mouth on her!! What a f***ink b**ch! I hope the American people can finally see what a f***ing ret**d Hitlery really is, and vote for a real f***ing American patriot, Ron Paul!

  142. RV Michael Says:

    I knew Hilary was the least disirable presidential candidate. I had no ideal how evil she really is. Like others have said, the sheeple factor is alive and she will more than likely win…because she’s the most corparate subsidized looter on the hill.

    Up-until the Clinton’s and Bush’s America was best place on earth to live!

    America, now looted from within. How do those politicias in Washington Sleep?

  143. Global Soldier Says:

    The Clintons are very devious, the great deceivers. The american public have no idea of what has been done when they were in the white house. A lot of people disappeared. A lot of people were fooled by Mr Bilderberg oops I mean ol Billy boy. RON BROWN COVER UP!

  144. Mark Says:

    Rabbit, are you are a troll trying to stir the pot or do you actually believe Conspiracy Theories? I went to the Washington Post web site, typed in “North American Union”. No hits. How can that be, if the NAU is a “fact”?

    Thanks for calling me a “fucking ignorant, misinformed cretin”.

    Rabbit Says:

    Mark you are without doubt one of the dumbest shit heads I have seen on this thread, and there are a few of you.

    The North American Union, you fucking ignorant, misinformed cretin, IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY. IT is a living,m breathing, happening fact! I am astounded, again and again at the patent stupidity of you fucking brain dead Yanks. Some of you are just a complete waste of carbon and Oxygen. Please, for the love of god, will you cretins JUST DIE already.

  145. Alpha 2 Says:

    The entity known by hearsay as, Hillary Clinton, is just another cog in the Satanic juggernaut which is taking over control of the world. The juggernaut is a millennia old agenda. This ancient agenda was first written down, as far as we know, in Babylonia, around 5000 years ago. This written and oral expression of the master agenda is known as the Talmud.

    Many years later, another written expression of the master plan for the world surfaced and is known as, The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. According to these two sources, there is an elite which controls everything, now, pretty much; banks, governments, media, pharmaceuticals, and the collection agencies posing as the, CRA, IRS, and whatever the leaches are called in other countries, it matters not; private entities are sucking the people’s life blood through, ‘heavily graduated income taxes,’ the second principle of the Communist Manifesto, a condensed version of the master plan.

    Hilary Clinton is just another puppet for the agenda. The issue regarding how she expresses herself is an symptom of how far along the agenda has gone. They don’t care anymore. Everything goes. Morality is out the door. Politicians, who used to be more discreet, can do and say what they want. Before a nation of children, their behaviour is presented as the moral standards of the empire. It is no wonder things are the way they are. It is all by design.

    The sad thing about it all is, Jesus spoke very clearly about who and what this is all about in Matthew 23. That was only 2000 years ago, and yet, they who profess to be His followers have not heard the message. He identified your oppressors, and told you, those of you who believe in what He had to say, ‘you have no one above you but God, Who is Your Father in Heaven.’ So, stop bowing down before the Whores of Babylon, of which Hilary Clinton is surely one. If you are a true follower of Jesus Christ, instead of a follower of priests and dubious leaders, it is time to be politically incorrect, as Jesus was. He was not afraid to speak the truth. Remember, the truth will set you free. Presently you are not free. You are slaves, even though you live in fancy houses and drive expensive cars, you own none of it. All your stuff is collateral for the national debts of your countries. Hilary is part of that which is stealing you blind of everything, including your souls.

    My advice to the American people: You live in a land which claims to be the home of the brave and land of the free. So, now is your time in history to prove it. Your only hope, and the only hope for the world, at this juncture in the agenda, is to vote for RON PAUL for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. He stands for less government and a distancing from the international banksters who control the world’s money and subsequently control all of us through wage slavery.

    Hilary Clinton belongs to an elite of which the Rothchilds belong, as well. In the latter part of the 18th century, Meyer Amschel Bauer Rothchild said, ‘give me control over a people’s money, I care not their governments, I will control those people.’ Well, he does control the people, along with his friends in high places, as clearly spelled out in the Protocols, afore mentioned. So, what we have before us is just the way they planned it. Hilary Clinton is just an other black pawn on their global chessboard.

    Now is time for the white knight to come forward. If the people of the United States support their knight with brave and valiant action, we may still become free.

    Remember, where there is government, there is no freedom.

    Up the Revolution!

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  147. aconservativeblogforpeace Says:

    Hillary Clinton’s as foul-mouthed, bad-tempered and paranoid as Nixon only AFAIK outside of politics Nixon was more decent to people. (She’s a spoiled little snob, a type he fought all his life.)

    Yes, Madame Speaker, impeach Bush and Cheney like Kucinich wants and be the first woman president… and say no to Israel and stop this war like the people who voted you in as speaker want.

  148. Patrick Sperry Says:

    It would appear that so many here on this thread have missed the oh, so obvious.
    Clinton would trash the Constitution and Bill of Rights. That is the great danger of yet another Clinton Presidency.
    Forget about free speech.
    Forget about private property.
    Forget about being able to properly and effectively defend yourself, family, and neighbors.

  149. Lurch Says:

    I haven’t read all the responses to Queen Hillary’s foul mouth, but here’s something that may or may not be here. Read “Trance Formation of America”. Skip right to page 155 and read about the Democratic front runner. Hillary’s favorite restaurant!

  150. Wakeup Says:

    Yes Hillary is evil, yes America is in the shit, but how much? First stop down the Rabbit Hole is concentration camps for ‘news informers’ in America.

    http://decenturl.com/libertyforlife/u.s.concentration-camps

    The media does not report the information you need to know.

  151. Wakeup Says:

    The unfortunate ends of the Clinton’s friends.

    http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/10093/48/

  152. Wakeup Says:

    More details on Clinton’s dead friends.

    http://cbn2.tripod.com/iflink.html?

    The documentary, The Mena Connection

    http://decenturl.com/video.google/mena-connection-compromised

    The documentary, The Clinton Chronicles

    http://decenturl.com/video.google/the-clinton-chronicles

  153. rickson Says:

    If the f**king americans don`t f**king wakeup, that motherf**king c**ks**king h**lary will be the next F**king commander in F**king chief.

  154. Pepe Panderson Says:

    She is not only a foul mouthed fool, she has a killer’s cunning and instincts
    What ever happened to her old boyfiend and money handler Vince Foster?
    Did you know there r satellite images that show he was murdered near the
    WH and his body was dragged or carried to the nearby Ft Darcy park. that
    little move took it out of DC police jurisdiction and placed it under the fine
    investigative arm of Park police. The pistol they recovered was made up
    from 2 different weapons. In his suicide he was able to get off a second !!shot (the first one was to his left temple) even though he was sposed to be
    right handed – a wound thru the neck probly helped him to bleed to death
    but the 2nd wound was disavowed by typical blacksuits that bossed the
    paramedics around and basically told them what they were allowed to say.
    VF’s mysterious suicide note – which amazingly reappeared days after -in a
    briefcase that had been searched by feds has been shown to be a fraud by
    handwritng experts. Further investigations were cynical coverups by Friends OB&H. How can the FBI or Secret Service washed their hands of
    death involving a high level pres advisor? – then there’s Ron Brown – the
    global ambassador for bill & hillary – he died in Yugoland in a staged air crash – to get rid of one man they terminated about 17 biz men and pilots.

  155. Bo Says:

    The next best thing we can hope for Hitlery, is an assasins bullet to the brain.

  156. Mike Allen Says:

    Seems to me that her language makes her human, like all of us.

  157. Charlie Says:

    I can’t imagine anyone voting for her after the debacle of her husband’s presidency. If you like what went on in the previous Clinton administration, I guess you would like her. However, be prepared for people to be eliminated if they get in her way. I personally am voting for Ron Paul. He is a decent man with good ideas of getting America back where she belongs.

  158. Patrick Sperry Says:

    I have posted elsewhere on this blog about Ron Paul.

    I will vote for just about anyone that runs against Clinton.

  159. Indian in the machine Says:

    Trashing Hitlery is one thing, but responding with Love is quite another and is preferred if we’re to see world peace.

    Dieter
    Indian in the machine
    Canada

    Check out what’s being seen in the canadian sky these days (click my link).

  160. Hans Beta Says:

    I predict that after Hillbilly Hillary is positioned (contra elected) in the White House, the expression, “Jack-booted Tampon,” will be in vogue.

  161. Bedrt Simms Says:

    Here you go, America! A vote for Hillary is a vote for a larger wedge between people in the world. I think people would get a better idea of the type of person (if thats what she is) to see her go off on one of her foul mouthed tirades in the live media. If she wins this election, America is screwed Big-Time!

    Bert, San Diego

  162. SUSAN Says:

    SHE IS GAY ………………
    SUSAN GAITHERSBURG MD

  163. Patrick Sperry Says:

    So true Bert.

  164. George's Thoughts Says:

    George

    For the most part I agree with you and enjoy reading your posts.

  165. The visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton - Page 2 - Political Hotwire Says:

    [...] Re: The visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton I don’t hate Hillary Clinton at all – I just do not like Criminals fooling the public while her biggest funders are Fox News and the Defence Corporations…. She is a crook and she should not lead the US, Her quotes are incredible read them yourself after you found out just how evil she really is… The Clinton Chronicles Actuall Hillary Quotes – now think about this should this person logically have the nuclear codes or be in charge of the United States Military? Hat Tip to Earl1911 for finding these! Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise." (From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 – Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day, 1991) "You sold out, you mother f**ker! You sold out!" (From the book "Inside" by Joseph Califano, p. 213 – Hillary yelling at Democrat lawyer.) F**k off! It’s enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut." (From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 – Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good morning." "You f**king idiot." (From the book "Crossfire" p. 84 – Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.) "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!" (From the book "The First Partner" p. 259 – Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.) "Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!"(From the book "Hillary’s Scheme" p. 89 – Hillary’s various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.) "Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don’t come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I s ay, Okay!!!?" (From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 – Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.) < Think about this folks – should Hillary Clinton be in charge of the US Military – how about the nuclear codes. Does she sound like a people person? Why are 40% of the public conned into supporting this wiccan marxist? > "Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." (Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.) "Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"(From the book "The Survivor," by John Harris, p. 382 – Hillary in her 2000 Senate campaign) "Where’s the miserable c*ck sucker?" (From the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5 – Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer) "No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days – we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote." (Was posted on Hillary Clinton’s senate.gov web site on 1/28/05) "Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!" (From the book "Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72 – Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.) A right-wing network was after his presidency…including perverting the Constitution." (To Barbara Walters about the Republicans who impeached her husband; 20/20, ABC 6/8/2003.) "What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!" (From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris, p. 99 – Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the White House) "I mean, you’ve got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum." (C-Span, 1/19/1997 – Hillary complains about the mainstream media, which are all conservatives in her opinion) "Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can’t f**k her here!!" (From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 – Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally) "You know, I’m going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I’m going to start thinking of her as a human being" (From the book "The Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Peggy Noonan, p. 55) "You show people what you’re willing to fight for when you fight your friends." (From the book "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward, ch. 14) "We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West." (From the book "I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 119 – During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas) "The only way to make a difference is to acquire power" (From the book "I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 68 – Hillary to a friend before starting law school.) "We just can’t trust the American people to make those types of choices…. Government has to make those choices for people" (From the book "I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 20 – Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hastert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan) "I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe" (From the book "I’ve Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 – Hillary in 1996) HILLARY QUOTES Conservative Libertarian Outpost [...]

  166. Anj Says:

    The majority of you have posted comments as if you are absolutely horrified regarding these alleged statements by Hillary – The way she dares speak about others as if they were lower life forms than herself! The way she cusses like a sailor! So aggressive! So vile! Such vanity!

    … Yet this is “exactly” how you have written your own posts regarding “her” – and one another – Vile and filthy language, aggression, speaking about others who have posted here as if they were a lower life form than yourselves …

    It makes a person wonder just whose aggression and bad attitudes and vile filthy ways many of you are actually disgusted with – Hillary – really? That’s hardly rational, considering that your own ways are like a mirrored image of hers …

    To others of you who have posted otherwise intelligent posts, there is a Senator about to step into the light, whose core values and history both politically and personally is anything but disgusting and vile. If you’ve not looked into who he is yet, I highly reccommend doing so. His name is Duncan Hunter.

  167. the least of you all Says:

    Without national repentence it doesn’t matter who gets elected. This nation will be judged and punished for it’s sins, all the more since we were once primarily a christian nation and have now turned to apostasy. GOD is a rightous and holy GOD who will not tolerate the blood of his SON being trampled over, mocked and cast aside as if it were worthless!

  168. Dave Says:

    We have our Vote, We have our Faiths, We have everything! ! ! !

  169. Anj Says:

    2 least of you all — You may well be right. However, having a sort of ‘Paul of Tarsus’ to lead the nation into that repentence surely could not hurt.

  170. Hillary Quotes - The Truth Is Out There « Waste Of My Oxygen Says:

    [...] Thought these were humorous, but important with the upcoming Democrat Primaries… What a lady Hillary is, sounds like a truck driver… But Bill says she does not want to be a man… Where is the [...]

  171. Dave Says:

    Beware! ! ! ! Off all attorneys in Government positions, especially those that are so important they don’t want to take their respective (or lack there of) Husband’s last name. Oh wait,..they aren’t calling her Hillary Rohdam Clinton on the ticket are they,….hmmmmmm

    Clinton=deception

  172. Mark Linham Says:

    Dennis Kucinich ’08

  173. Chad M. Bowlin Says:

    Confirmation of all quotes is too time consuming for any one who is employed. I am very much self employed and did check on two quotes and verified unequivocally that she did, in fact, say these words verbatim.
    To even have her as a candidate is rediculous and out of any reason. The American people seem to live in a bubble & disregard the fact we ARE at WAR and to even think of having this person lead us as Commander in Chief is un-real. I do not give the American voting public my confidence. That is very sad….that we have lost the ability to “wake up” American. Your conscious CANNOTbe your guide, it must be reason and factual determination. Lets see how dumb or smart we are. Time will tell.

  174. Richard A Douglas Says:

    This is a comment by Dick Douglas. I took the time to go to my local library and look into eash and every book listed in the first section. It was all there. Every single word as reported here, were found in the books so stated. It is no wonder Bill Clinton would go for a clean mouth to get a blow job. I wouldn’t screw Hilary if she were the last woman left on earth. I feel sorry for the Secret Service people who had to put up with her bull shit. I would had resigned on the spot.

  175. Auntie Nuwhirl Doorder Says:

    Americans can only think in terms of “there are only 2 options”. It is constantly being crammed down our throats. It is time to evolve mentally people! When you you bicker back and forth, you keep this lobotomy in tact. The real criminals keep their power over the people because they keep arguing with each other over issues that are manufactured by the same criminals. There isn’t just left or right….where’s my answer because I don’t fit into either. There isn’t just conservative or liberal, there isn’t just Republican or Democrat. “You’re with us or against us”….that is the most absurd statement ever!!! Bush says that and people applaud??? I’m not with you, but I’m not against this country, just against you and the corporate establishment you work for. Where’s my answer? I don’t have an “answer” because mine doesn’t fall within the only 2 options that we’re being given. Admit it people….we’ve been enslaved and dumbed down for a long time. We are all forced to give true false answers to multiple choice questions….we’ve all been lobotomized! It’s time to recognize, stop arguing with each other, and realize it’s not political. Think for yourself, think WITHOUT BIAS and you’ll see the world in a totally different light. It’s not right vs. left…..it is right vs. wrong!!!!! It’s up to the people as the establishment is pure evil!!!!! Do the research yourself, don’t just go by the mainstaim establishment media. God bless America….God bless planet Earth!!!!

  176. Mark Linham Says:

    There’s left, right, up, down, back and forth.. and that’s not all…

  177. Mark Linham Says:

    Stop the war, NOW.. Dennis Kucinich ’08…

  178. Mark Linham Says:

    Legalize it!

  179. Simon Says:

    Fuck Hillary…..just an selfish peice of high class shit….who doesnt obviously have respect for anyone…and she’s running for president? fuck that…..if she ever talked to me like that i’d spit in her face….but yeah….funny shit though

  180. Mark Linham Says:

    I have to admit that I’m aware now of much in the way of “smoke and mirrors”, here.. of playing one side against the other (as in this thread). The evidence is there, that the Bushes and the Clintons are basically on the same team. It is an open, no-so-secret, secret.

    I’m really despairing right now.. I’m thinking right now that there is no hope for my country’s federal government.

    ..when a long train of abuses evinces a design to reduce a people under absolute despotism..

    I see that design.. I don’t know what to say..

    I’ll be sending a donation to the Ron Paul campaign.

  181. Uncle no-new world dogooder Says:

    If there isnt something done about the abuse of power both sides participate in, our country will turn into a socialistic debotchery, and we will all work for free. Our country was not founded on the principal of Government having any power over the people. The first problem is stopping the hand out crowd from living off the system. The second issue is legislating reverse discrimination laws to slow down the influx of minorities into goverment positions by way of unbalanced testing. A white male takes a test for advancement and scores a 87, the same minority takes the same test and scores a 75 and gets the promotion because he is awarded 13 additional points for being a minority and gets a final score of 88. The equal opportunity employment act has seperated reality from the work place and imposed an unfair bias in a minorities direction. Stop the minority game, lose that title (entitlement) attitude. I believe the minority populous is still in slavery to the establishment for their entitlements and will sheepishly continue to vote for the side that promises the check to continue.
    Lets stop the effort to make all white people a minority in this country by flooding the country with illegals. We have laws we need to inforce them and inforce them NOW! ! ! !
    Don’t let the thieves and so called legitemate mafia types continue to stay in office. Lets get the word out about local politicians that get into office because they have their criminal records fixed. Lets follow the good advise of auntie above and unbury our heads from the sand like a bunch of osteriches. WAKE UP and start a petition locally to call the curruption out of hiding! ! ! Abolish the Criminal IRS and their “GET THE MONEY” tactics. Enough is enough! ! ! !

  182. Mark Linham Says:

    Protect abortion rights..
    Protect gun rights..

    Kucinich/Paul ’08

  183. Patrick Sperry Says:

    Interesting that you would post that Mark. Ron Paul is pro life. My dream ticket at this point in time would be Tom Tancredo with Ron Paul as Vice President.
    What with the shooting in Nebraska yesterday I expect that gun control will pop back up on the radar. Just speculation on my part, but I have to wonder if that tragedy might have been minimized if a few good people had been nearby that were armed, ready, and willing to do what needed to be done…

  184. Mark Linham Says:

    That’s why I propose that combination. Dennis Kucinich is pro-choice, but doesn’t favor the right to keep and bear arms, unfortunately. And Ron Paul would protect the Second Amendment, but not a woman’s right to her own body, again, unfortunately.

    I’m thinking that if their forces were combined we (might) get the rational best of both of them, although, of course, there is no guarantee of this.

    But, then again, when it comes to predicting what any complex system involving human volition will do, there is no absolute guarantee of anything.

  185. patricksperry Says:

    No guarantee’s are something that I have truly come to believe in! Tell me please. Where the hell in the Constitution is there even a subtle mention of abortion? It’s a States Rights issue, plain and simple.

    The Second Amendment, is described, as an inalienable right. God Given. Secularist’s call that “Natural Law.”

  186. Mark Linham Says:

    No, the word abortion is not in the Bill of Rights, but the *principle* embodied in the Fourth Amendment’s protections against
    unreasonable search and seizure logically entail that a person must not be deprived of autonomous control of his/her own body. There is no right more basic than this one, if the concept of rights is to have any real meaning. You would be *denying*, not affirming, the right to life by denying anyone this right.

    By the same token, the Second Amendment may not necessarily give you and I a right to “keep and bear arms”, as such, because the complete statement of the article has “well-regulated militia” as the purpose for which the people may exercise the right in question.
    I, of course, don’t agree with this last interpretation of Amendment Two. Do I forfeit the right to self-defense, and therefore to life, just because I’m not in a “well-regulated militia”? And, should I, and other innocent people, be deprived of such a basic right as self-defense, because some people – whose actions we are not responsible for – behave criminally with firearms?

    The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to *protect individual rights*. And it does this by naming – and more in the Fourth Amendment, for example, than the Second (the Second Amendment being relatively specific) – broad classes of ways in which in which governments may not act.
    If the protection of individual rights is the Bill’s purpose, and it is, then the so-called “strict constructionist”, or any other narrow interpretation of the Bill of Rights, are very bad methods of interpretation, because they render the Bill of Rights useless in many specific contexts which may not have been foreseen by the Founders in 1789, and that therefore are not referenced in particular in the document.

    As for the notion of “states’ rights”, it was used also to defend slavery.

    States do not have rights. Individual human beings do.
    Properly understood, the Federal Government, as well as the several states, have administrative “rights” delegated to them by the people (however interpreted), and that are limited by the principle of the rule of law (through the Bill of Rights, mainly), which specifically means that these *administrative* “rights” are limited by the principle of individual, human rights.
    It is our collective, and individual, falling away from this understanding that is the general proximate cause of the political mess that we’re in.

  187. patricksperry Says:

    Okay. Well stated Mark. Me? I believe that Roe V Wade is just plain bad law the it was written. If it does get overturned it will have no effect at all here in Colorado. State law here gives the right for abortion on demand.

    Please, don’t even try to confuse the issue by introducing slavery into the conversation. But? We could start an entirely new thread about the causes of The War of Northern Aggression. :)

    Have a good one!

  188. Mark Linham Says:

    Roe v Wade is, of course, not legislation. It is a court case.

    In what is supposed to be our much vaunted, but not well understood, system of “checks and balances” we have three principal branches of government: the executive, the legislative and the judicial. Both structurally, as well as functionally, these three branches are supposed to have equal and separate powers meant to check abuses committed by the other two.

    You say Roe is “bad law”. I’m not saying that you do necessarily, but things like this are often said by those who do not understand that it is indeed the court system’s role to hear cases brought before it involving the workings of statutory law, and to render decisions regarding the constitutional validity of the laws in question, and to nullify those laws if they do not pass constitutional muster. This is how the courts fulfill their function of being a protection for the people by checking legislative abuses.

    A person’s rights are not subject to nullification by a popular vote, any more than they are subject to nullification by a ruling oligarchy, or a monarch. The founders alluded to the inalienability of rights, and this is what “inalienable” means, here. In this regard, legislatures can – and often do – overstep their boundaries. And it is indeed the *primary* job of the court system to undo the damage legislatures do when this happens.

    The Roe v Wade result was not a bad one since it affirmed the most inalienable right nameable, i. e., the individual’s right to his/her own body. The result here is what really matters, and if we, the American people were smart, we would make this point loudly and frequently, and insist that all our governments, at all levels, adhere much more consistently to this life-saving principle. Without meaning to complicate the thread here, this would mean – among other things: the abolition of our ludicrous “War on Drugs” (my body, and what I voluntarily put in it, is my own responsibility), removal of the Food and Drug Administration’s enforcement powers (or at least hampering the FDA with strict administrative oversight rules with penalties for corporate conflict-of-interest violations), and stopping a most odious measure that has lately been floated by some advocates of government provided health care: mandatory (forced) physical examinations.

    One thing we do have in common, Patrick, is that we support gun rights. Wouldn’t it be great if, when a state legislature passes a gun confiscation statute, the Supreme Court then overturns that statute? Not that they necessarily would rule this way, but technically, they could. And this is a point for you to well consider when contemplating the Supreme Court’s much misunderstood powers.

    The reference to slavery was not meant to expand the scope of this thread, just to make the point that a person’s rights may not be voted away by any government, federal, state, or local, or any other individual(s); and by the same token, that any government, federal, state, or local, acts properly when it both can and does nullify any actions taken that violate those rights.

    The “War of Northern Aggression”?
    The story has it that the Civil War was prosecuted to abolish slavery. It is good that chattel slavery was ended, but I’ve learned – not so much in my standard education – that other issues were involved as well. It would be an interesting subject to study.

  189. patricksperry Says:

    Sorry for the delay in responding Mark, I have been running my butt off lately it seems. :)

    Roe V Wade was legislating from the bench. That is why I say that it is bad law, and should have been relegated back to the states. The Second Amendment is directly stated as an inalienable right. Unlike your reasoning about Roe V Wade.

    The War of Northern Aggression, more commonly known as the Civil War, was actually about States Rights, and the oppression of the Federal Government. If it was about abolishing slavery, then why did the Emancipation Proclamation only free slaves that were in the rebelling states?

    Members of my family fought on both sides of that war. A war that I believe was largely unnecessary. The slavery issue was nearly gone due to economic pressures. Do a search on the subject at the Mises Institute for what I believe to be the best studies ever conducted on that aspect of the subject. A link is in my blog roll.

  190. Mark Linham Says:

    What you’re calling “legislating from the bench” is a misconception, Patrick. This is a criticism of the courts that might have some validity in cases where a court ruling actually constricts individual freedom (the usual effect of legislation), and especially in cases where the constriction in question results without incontrovertible probable or just cause. In Roe v Wade, individual freedom was not constricted, it was expanded. Suddenly – and throughout the country – women had the freedom to have an abortion if they chose to. There was no part of the ruling that had the effect of forcing women to have abortions who did not want to have one. As I pointed out earlier, Roe made good on Fourth Amendment protections of individual privacy where reproduction is concerned. It is not “legislating from the bench” when the courts hear cases, rule on their constitutional validity, and the result is an actual expansion of individual human liberty.

    I have the right to life, however I still, nevertheless, may not have someone force you to donate an organ to me in my hour of need. And you do NOT become a “murderer” by refusing to make that donation.
    So it is with abortion, contraceptives, drugs, etc; it is not yours, mine, or any institution’s “right” to micromanage anyone’s private sexual or reproductive behavior or choices. Only the initiation of force between individuals – and it should go without saying that “individuals” means THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN BORN – can be properly prohibited. The right to life means nothing without a freedom as basic as this one, and no other particular rights are logically supportable without his one.

    Since there is no such thing as the “right” to violate rights, the “states’ rights” argument falls flat, here. No federal, state or local government has the right to forcibly appropriate an individual human being’s body even for an allegedly “noble” purpose, Governments do, in fact, do this sort of thing in a wide variety of contexts, but conscientious advocates of justice are always right to oppose these outrages, and courts are right to overturn them.

    As for slavery as an operative cause in the Civil War, slavery (at least of the chattel variety) was already illegal in the northern states.
    I’ll go read the Von Mises material, though.

  191. patricksperry Says:

    Mark, you are completely missing my point. Your arguments are, however, well thought out. My point is, that it is a states rights issue. We may just have to disagree about that.

    Slavery was still legal in most of the north. Including where most of my people lived on my fathers side. As well as on my mothers side of the family.

    My family, in general, would buy a slave “family.” Then, let them work off what it cost to purchase them, while educating the children, and then emancipate them along with a gift of a home, land, and the wherewithal to succeed.

    It was a very different time back then. Judging the people that actually lived in those times by todays standards, is called historical fallacy.

  192. Mark Linham Says:

    The “states’ rights” argument, if I understand it correctly, essentially refers to the constitutional principle that if anything is not specifically named in the Constitution as a prerogative of the central government, that the policy or legal prerogative devolves to the state level.

    It is the fundamental libertarian political principle that the purpose of government is to defend individual rights. If you would elevate “states’ rights” above this, then you have abandoned individual rights. We must require that states “rights”, or governmental rights in general, be subordinated to individual rights, Patrick, or we have mentally surrendered to tyranny, which is really all that is required for us all to lose our freedom in fact, in the real world, no matter how well armed we are.

    No, the Fourth Amendment says that we are to be safe from unreasonable searches and seizures. In modern terms this means at the very least, the personal right to privacy. The fourth amendment does not enumerate all of the specific and concrete ways required for the implementation of this principle. But, just the same, either: a) the broad scope of specific rights protected under the Fourth Amendment (even though they are not specifically named) are indeed protected, or b) that the Fourth amendment means essentially nothing, or it means so little as to be useless as the legal bulwark against tyranny that it was properly intended to be.

    A right as basic as an individual’s control over his/her body is required in order to make real any Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure. Legal or policy statutes affecting that right, therefore, do not necessarily devolve to the state level, nor do they necessarily evolve to the federal level for their resolution. If one’s interpretation of the Fourth Amendment’s protections is a principled one, then a summation of the disputed constitutional principles involved would be: that it is the states’ rights to decide in legal or administrative matters, as long as the requisite actions do not include the violation of the individual’s right against unreasonable search and seizure, or any other protected individual right. So there indeed are state *administrative* rights which are not constitutionally reserved for the federal government, they just don’t include doing away with basic individual rights.

    As for the Civil War/War of Northern Aggression, I probably do need a refresher course.

    As for the historical fallacy, while it may be true on one level that it is pointless to second guess, if you will, the actions of our ancestors, on another level it remains vitally necessary that we render a rational moral evaluation, just the same. It is this exercise of our critical faculties, in particular, that make human life and progress possible.

  193. patricksperry Says:

    For many years, in the field of ethics, political science, and Social science, Libertarianism, was defined as the belief that governments sole duty, was to protect the liberty of the individual. That is at all levels of government, not just at the federal level.

    Abortion is a states rights issue, period. As for protecting a persons rights? What of the person in the womans belly? Is it a person? I think that when life is actually life, or it’s viability, is the real question.

  194. Mark Linham Says:

    No, abortion is an *individual* rights issue. As for governments having “rights”, I could just as easily say that the federal government has “rights”, or that the United Nations, or that G. H. W. Bush’s “New World Order” has “rights”.

    It is an *individual* woman who loses her freedom, her health, and in some cases, even her life under regimes where abortion is outlawed. No state has a “right” to do this to anyone, or even to put someone through risks as utterly sacrificial as this. If an alleged “right” can be rationally, or even reasonably, disputed – as the idea of “states’ rights”, or any other “institutional rights” can be – then at the very least, the institutional “right” in question is indeed not incontrovertably a right.

    “What of the person in the womans belly?” [sic]
    This is what you say is the “real” issue. You can’t be serious about this. Personhood for the conceptus is promoted by the so-called right-to-life movement from the moment of conception, on. A consistent attempt to apply this “definition” of personhood would make slugs and bacteria “persons” also. A conceptus is not a “person”. At the very least, its “personhood” is disputable, whether or not anyone does, in fact, dispute such an absurd notion. What isn’t reasonably disputable are the rights of an individual, who again, by well established general and legal definition is: SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN BORN.

    Further, if the “real” issue to you is the personhood of the fetus, then “states’ rights” in this context would not be really that important, would it? ..Unless you would put the authority of states over the “rights of fetuses” also.

  195. patricksperry Says:

    Mark, to equate my statement with bacteria is ludicrous. You know dog gone well that I was referring to human life.
    By the way, I am not anti abortion. My personal belief, is that this is an issue that the woman and man involved should be dealing with, and their beliefs. I don’t think that government has any business in the bedrooms of consenting adults.
    As consistently stated by me, I put inalienable rights as the sole legitimate reason for the very existence of government at any level. That is why there are laws, and society rather than anarchy.
    Since you seem to equate that concept, inalienable rights, with religion then I suppose that those rights are actually not God given, as stated by the Founders? If that is so, then who I ask, grants those rights? The person, or group of people that are the most effective at warfare?
    I reject the Utilitarian concept that the end justifies the means, or that might makes right. So, just where do we go from here?

  196. Mark Linham Says:

    I think you were confused a bit by my last response, or you did not read it carefully enough. And your response has me a bit confused, but I’ll do my best:

    I did not say that you equated human life with bacteria. What I said, essentially, is that the argument that a fertilized zygote has “rights”, if viewed objectively, has just as much merit as arguing for “rights” for bacteria – which is to say, of course, none.

    Thomas Jefferson stated in The Declaration of Independence that we are endowed by our Creator with ..inalienable rights. You should remember that Jefferson, as well as a number of others of the founders were deists, which is to say that their views were largely naturalistic (i.e. scientific, rational), even though leavened with religious language. In this philosophical context, the meaning – of the reference to rights in the Declaration – is that rights are *natural* (or God-given, if you prefer), and are thus not subject to arbitrary declaration, or revocation (inalienable).

    You said you don’t believe government has any business in the bedrooms of consenting adults.
    I, of course, completely agree.

    As for your reference to utilitarianism, I haven’t studied utilitarianism in any depth. But I too, don’t believe that might makes right. Might makes things possible, but *justification* is an entirely separate issue belonging in its entirety to the field of cognition, or reason.

    Some other crucial points to consider are:

    1) the set of morally right actions is not equivalent to, or coextensive with, the set of *political* rights.
    Which means that it is possible for something to at the same time be morally wrong, yet nevertheless be a political human right. For example, it is not morally right to for one to destroy one’s own body with highly toxic drugs. But, if we’re to have a free society, this action must be recognized – and protected – as the political right that it is.
    To say that something is “immoral” should not be automatically construed to mean that it ought to be illegal – a supposition many are wont to make, I’ve observed.

    2) The attribute of an action being a political human right does not make it obligatory, or something that should be enforced. The freedom to NOT exercise a particular right, is also a right.

  197. Mark Linham Says:

    Other points of clarification require emphasis here, Patrick:

    I do not “equate that concept, inalienable rights, with religion”. No, on the contrary, the recognition of inalienable rights was made possible precisely as a result of religion’s loss of power in the West.

    Beginning roughly five-hundred-plus years ago, secular ideas, and their resulting general elevation of the human spirit began to banish the demons of the dark ages. The revolution was not – and is still not – complete, but its effects were and are profound. The resulting view of life spread virally. It was a view characterized by a sense, and an eventual recognition, that man is not innately wrong or “sinful”, that we won’t “go to Hell” for thinking for ourselves and questioning authority, and that an earthly, purposeful happiness is possible to us. It was in this general philosophical context that the recognition of human rights first became possible. And it was a result of this, that as time went on, the first truly proud persons in recorded history began progressively to rebel against the rule of kings, which culminated in the American Revolution.

    No, it is precisely to the extent that the religious metaphysics was replaced by a more naturalistic and scientific one, that modern values, including reason, self-respect, and then the recognition of, and respect for, individual human political rights, became possible.

    A related matter I’d like to highlight here, is that because rights are *recognized*, and not “given” by anyone, including a “higher” power, rights are therefore *natural*, and thus indeed are properly to be regarded as inalienable.

  198. patricksperry Says:

    Excellent response Mark! As a matter of fact, you posted pretty much what I was going to write on. I am really busy right now, and it may take a day or so to locate it, but I will post at least part of a research paper that I wrote having to do with Natural Law in College.

    Indeed, among many of the Founders deists writings, there are often references to the works of John Stewart Mills. You might find him interesting as a study.

  199. Mark Linham Says:

    Yes, Patrick, I’d like to see that natural law research paper.

    With reference to the original subject of this thread, Hillary Clinton is probably not someone I’d have a problem with on the personal level, and her use of expletives is really no more offensive than my own use of them. My objections raised earlier to previous posters to this thread largely arises from a sense I’ve had from many conservatives of them simply disliking her just because she’s a woman. If you want an objective evaluation of Ms Clinton, her voting record is a telling and immediately relevant piece of evidence. As a professional politician, Hillary Clinton is untrustworthy. All you need to know is one thing: she voted FOR The USA Patriot Act (see: http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463). However, she voted AGAINST the Military Commissions Act.
    So at best, she has a mixed record, but this by definition makes her unreliable as a defender, let alone a restorer of freedom. I’m sure there’s much more to the subject than this, but I digress…

    Another matter relevant to our national welfare is our current economic problem. This is manifesting in the sub-prime defaults, and an otherwise most precipitous level of aggregate indebtedness. The basic underlying problem – aside from the political one (e.g. loss of civil liberties) – is access to energy, which is largely the underlying motivation behind our imperialistic foreign interventionism (war), as well. Powerful special interests (corporations) have for too long been able to suppress developments in the alternative and free energy fields. We need to repect intellectual property rights, but we desperately need to reform our patent laws so as to put a stop to this suppression. This, in a nutshell, is the very KEY to solving the economic woes of The United States of America, and also the world.

  200. patricksperry Says:

    Well unfortunately the floppy that my paper was on disintegrated. I did locate the following, with links for verification.

    The Natural Law Tradition in Ethics
    First published Mon 23 Sep, 2002
    ‘Natural law theory’ is a label that has been applied to theories of ethics, theories of politics, theories of civil law, and theories of religious morality. We will be concerned only with natural law theories of ethics: while such views arguably have some interesting implications for law, politics, and religious morality, these implications will not be our focus here.

    This article has two central objectives. First, it aims to identify the defining features of natural law moral theory. Second, it aims to identify some of the main theoretical options that natural law theorists face in formulating a precise view within the constraints set by these defining features and some of the difficulties for each of these options. It will not, however, attempt to recount the history of the development of natural law thought. (For a very helpful detailed history of natural law thought up to the beginning of the modern period, see Crowe 1977. For a very helpful detailed history of natural law thought in the modern period, see Haakonssen 1996. For an article-length recap of the entire history of natural law thought, see Haakonssen 1992.)

    1. Key Features of Natural Law Theories
    1.1 Natural law and divine providence
    1.2 Natural law and practical rationality
    1.3 The substance of the natural law view
    1.4 Paradigmatic and nonparadigmatic natural law theories
    2. Theoretical Options for Natural Law Theorists
    2.1 Natural goodness
    2.2 Knowledge of the basic goods
    2.3 The catalog of basic goods
    2.4 From the good to the right
    Bibliography
    Other Internet Resources
    Related Entries
    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/natural-law-ethics/

    Philosophically, I am Kantian for the most part, so I am at odds with “Natural Law” as an ethical theory. Perhaps that is why I clash with so many Liberals, as well as Libertarians! :)

  201. patricksperry Says:

    Also, the following web page has some very interesting links at the bottom that you may find useful in your argumentation.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Natural+Law%22&btnG=Google+Search

  202. patricksperry Says:

    Yipes! Your comment somehow got into the spam file Mark, hence the delay. Sorry about that!
    I have no problem with female politicians. I simply do not like Mrs. Clinton’s positions on so many things. She is grossly anti-military, anti-RKBA, believes that government is the solution to all the worlds problems. (Read Socialism, if not outright Communism.) Her ideas about taxation are horrific IMO.
    As for how to solve the worlds problems regarding energy? Good Lord, we could start a never ending thread about that subject!

  203. Mark Linham Says:

    Floppy diskettes are very fragile and vulnerable to damage when stored long-term. If your data has to last for a long time, record them onto a CD or DVD.

    You may have pointed out some other ways in which I differ from Hillary Clinton, and many other politicians as well. I, for example, also advocate the abolition of the income tax. Unlike Rep Ron Paul, however, I advocate replacing it with a national sales tax of say, roughly, 15% to 20%, just in case there are good reasons why we don’t want the central government to lose all of its revenue stream immediately.

    As I see it, the sales tax is a regressive tax; something Liberals, myself included, generally don’t like. But you pay a sales tax only when you actually spend money purchasing something, thus saving money is encouraged – something many of us probably should do more (I know I should). Additionally, no IRS goon is going to lay siege to your home over the sales tax. By contrast, the income tax is inherently oppressive. And despite attempts from time to time to make it progressive, it always eventually hurts poor and middle-income people the most. No one should be threatened with a jail sentence for doing nothing more than keeping money they’ve worked for and earned. So while the sales tax is regressive, on the upside, as a replacement for the income tax, it would greatly restore our lost financial privacy, to say nothing of its increasing our liberty, generally.

    Codex Alimentarius, and the FDA, must be stopped. The FDA approves dangerous drugs that kill people (Vioxx, anyone?), while attempting to greatly restrict – if not outright ban – vitamins!

    And you’re right. An energy thread would be quite long. But one basic thing to grasp about energy is that its cost is one of the main – if not THE main – thing that drives the prices of all commodities and finished goods. If we can obtain access to a limitless and cheap, if not free, source of readily available energy in the form of usable motive power, we can beat the economic recession overtaking us. Patent reform designed to put an end to the suppression of new energy inventions is the principal thing to be done in this field.

    Research: cold fusion (I think it works and “they” are keeping it from us.), etheric energy, the 200-mpg carburetor, hydrogen-fuel cells, solar power, and how mass production (of photovoltaic panels) would result in economies of scale, making production cheap! (like what happened to the prices of cars when Henry Ford pioneered the mass-production of cars), etc.. A virtual universe of options in this field…

  204. patricksperry Says:

    Mark, you might want to check your comp for adware or spyware, your comments keep getting tossed in the spam file.

    You might be interested in this thread also.
    http://patricksperry.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/the-fair-tax/

    As for the FDA, it is a double edged sword to be sure.

  205. Mark Linham Says:

    THIS IS A TEST…

    I’ve just cleaned my computer.. I think.

  206. Mark Linham Says:

    SUCCESS!

  207. patricksperry Says:

    Great Mark! It came through, and I will check the askimet spam to make sure that any other posts from you have not been tossed there.

    If you are not sure that it is clean, go to

    http://www.pcpitstop.com/default.asp

    and run the full test series. It is free, and the people there are outstanding.

  208. Mark Linham Says:

    Thanks for the URL, Patrick.

    Want to know who an EVEN MORE dangerous Democrat candidate is than Hillary?

    His name is John Edwards.

    Something that completely slipped past my radar several months ago is that Edwards advocated, at that time, mandatory health insurance coverage as part of his “health care” plan. If that is not atrocious enough – and I maintain that it is – this includes mandatory annual physical exams for all Americans.

    It isn’t possible to overstate what an egregious violation of our individual rights – and indeed what an act of outright official violence – this would be. Though he, of course, did not say in detail all of what this would entail, or how he would enforce it, he did specifically name forced mammograms as part of his program!

    Will the police soon be coming after you and me with guns and tasers for refusing or failing to submit to our annual digital rectal examination?

    Man! Talk about a son-of-a-bitch who MUST be stopped! Hillary may not be dangerous at all compared to this!

    Spread the word: STOP JOHN EDWARDS!

    Impeach him too. He should be removed from the Senate as well, of course!

  209. Mark Linham Says:

    Well, it appears I still have the problem.. time to scan my system some more.

    I stand corrected, Hillary advocates mandatory “health” insurance, too. I could not gather from the article I just scanned if she means also to inflict the compulsory physical examinations too, but I’m inclined now to assume that any such proposed mandatory coverage scheme does include this. This takes the proverbial cake. I refuse to support Hillary in any way, also!

    Almost all of these damn politicians are FASCISTS, and really dangerous ones too, Republicans and Democrats alike. A pox on both houses, dammit! As I’ve said earlier on this page, the two least offensive political candidates this year are: 1) Dennis Kucinich and 2) Ron Paul (in that order, in my opinion). And those are absolutely the only ones worthy of your support – if any of the candidates are worthy – if you don’t want to lose those precious remaining civil liberties that we may still have, much less have any civil liberties restored that we’ve already lost!

    To find out more about the outrage of mandatory “health” insurance and political candidates’ proposals to commit officially sanctioned aggravated assault and rape against all of us, Google: John Edwards, then Search Within Results: “mandatory health coverage” or “physical examinations”, etc…

    And here are some URLs for your edification and education:

    http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5081

    http://leaningstraightup.com/2007/09/03/john-edwards-health-plan-includes-compulsory-preventative-care/
    http://www.infowars.net/articles/september2007/030907Edwards.htm
    http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2007/09/john-edwards-wa.html

    Here is the article about Clinton:

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/09/17/health.care/index.html

    and you can find out where each of the candidates stand on a broad range of issues at:

    http://glassbooth.org/explore/

  210. patricksperry Says:

    Very good Mark! You see? We are much more alike than different.

    Run the scans and see what needs to be done to disinfect your computer.

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  212. patricksperry Says:

    Well, over the past few weeks it would seem that Hillary is hell bent on self destruction, and just when Barak Obama is against the ropes after the revealing of his racist church and pastor…

  213. patricksperry Says:

    related story : http://www.slate.com/id/2188192/?GT1=38001

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    I dont think the Megalomaniac inbreed freaks will be able to destroy America…Its amazing when one get a little power..they become absolutely ignorant and stupid….Globalism, A FAILURE..A JOKE……where are these crooked globalist going to hide after they have pissed off the entire world…which has already happened..LMAO..WHERE WILL THEY HIDE???? The joke is on them…they think they are smart because they are liars and devious and they have tricked us……That does not make them smart..It makes them stupid..
    because when humanity learns about how they have plotted to do evil against mankind…no one will respect them..or care about them..They think their money is going to protect them…lol.

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